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Week 5, Ch 2 part 2

I don’t understand why he tries to hide being curious about the :underage: area. Like, if she had just said “that kind of filth should be erased from existence”, then sure, but she just said she is curious about it. I would feel insulted in her place.

怪人ノコギリ8号

Clearly a pun on 怪獣8号 and, I guess, チェンソーマン. I have read some of the former and none of the latter but know of both thanks to my spouse reading those series.

それはともかく、前原もこういう可愛い女のことの恋愛に憧れてるんだ?やっぱりキミも男の子なんだね〜

She is making the assumption that he isn’t in it for the male lead, though :stuck_out_tongue:. More seriously, him liking this kind of manga doesn’t necessarily mean what she said. Since the manga focus on a single couple, it feel more natural that he would be interested in looking at typical social interactions, since he is at least nominally interested in those while never having any.
Still, his reply makes me feel like she was spot on.

ない。帰りたい

Even if you just want to be friends and absolutely nothing more, that still feels rude :roll_eyes: Kinda surprised she doesn’t like the idea of going to the game center, though. That sounds like the kind of stuff she would enjoy. (Also, did he just pay all the food himself? I thought they would split the check)

ってか、謎にシリーズ出てるやつあるよな

That makes me think of a horror movie called Troll 2, which has no connection with the original Troll movie, grew a cult following due to it being so bad it’s good and getting quite a few (non-official) sequels, including Troll 3, which manage to impressive feat of being related to neither Troll 1 or 2. Checking wikipedia, Troll 2 did get an official sequel (titled “under conTroll”) in 2019, though.
Still, there’s a bunch of horror film series that keep going for tax (evasion) purposes and probably even worse stuff, like money laundering.

あーん

Oh god no. It was only a few sentences, but that scene was really painful to watch read.

キモい陰キャ

Wait hold on what. They are right behind him, so how are they reaching that judgement?? What does he look like?? I kinda skipped the color pages, but I vaguely remember that he was cute. When he said he is wearing only black with some English, is he actually wearing a Kurokuma cosplay or something? I mean, that would be amazing, actually, but I don’t expect random high schoolers to understand that.

「…誰が面食い女だ、んのヤロ」
「ま、まあ、そういう尾ひれのおかげで助かったとこもあるから」

Wait hold on again, that was not your plan from the start? Then what was your point in doing that あーん thing?

(playing house of the dead)

The great thing about this game (series) is that, if you are good at it, you can play for a fairly long time for cheap. I think a full run is 45 min or so. According to the internet, it depends on the version and route selection, but indeed, it takes between 30min and 1hour. If he ranked, that means he went all the way through, so that sure is a very cost efficient play. (The best I have ever done on one coin is beating the first boss before getting annihilated by the second level)

油断して表情が緩んだところを見られた気がして、なんだか小恥ずかしい。

… but why. That guy sure is a mystery to me.

今は俺が朝凪を振り回しているような。

Err, no? Your social skill are indeed in the negative, I guess.

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I took it more as a “you are an otaku and otakus like lewd stuff, therefore you like lewd stuff”. It is still wrong, though.

Yes. It’s just 気味, though, so it’s still mainstream, just not one of the most prominent stuff.

I don’t know if you meant that jokingly, but yes, that is a good use of the 呼び捨て (or lack thereof) for contrasting comedic purpose. Hence why the suffixes are in katakana.

I mean, the “risk” is being recognized, which is literally a non-issue, so it’s fine, I guess.

I mean, as an introvert, I do like to talk with friends. It’s just that it leaves me exhausted and I then have a be asocial for a while as I recover. Could be something similar for him.

Yeah, I also don’t really know. But, as I mentioned in my own comments, I just gave up on understanding the main character.

My initial thought was that she was hoping to start a rumor that she has a boyfriend, thus keeping guys who don’t know her from trying to date her… but I was wrong, I guess. Still, that was a very weird Batman gambit.

I didn’t think about it, but it kinda goes in the direction I thought: he doesn’t really care about being alone, he is just pretending to because his mother and social norms say the he should.

I mean, she already mentioned that she wanted to do it again, I think. So next time is almost sure to happen.

Yes, that’s what he says. I strongly disagree though.

Translating that in proper English would be hell, since the whole operative part has been left out on purpose. The literal translation would be “The reason why she let that happen/she is letting me do so [is …], probably.”
The closest I can manage in English would be “I guess there’s only one reason why she would let that happen”, where “guess” is here to replace the uncertainty of 多分, and “one reason” taking the place of the ellipsis, but it still sounds a bit stronger than the Japanese version.

My guess is that something™ will happen.

What no, absolutely not.

This week ends at 24% for Booklive, which means we are probably going to be generally synced with Kindle from there on.

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Week 5 response

my impression was (in text) dude looks either like an edgelord or just generally ダサい or just gives off those vibes. sorta like, umm… idk a middle school chuuni or something.

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re week 5

The ダサい part is what the text says, but I can’t picture how that would look from the back.

Well, that guy is pretty cute and I love his coat. Considering the title implies he is a middle schooler, that train of thought won’t go any further.

I went back to the front of the book and checked the illustration and, yeah, the main character is cute and is just wearing a fairly standard sweatshirt. That does match the description in the text (black sweatshirt, black jeans). The text does mention that there’s English on the back too, so you could be able to see that, but he is seating, though?
Also, he is cute too (which they cannot see either, plus that’s probably just the illustrator’s take, I don’t think there’s supporting evidence in the text).
He did mention that the sweatshirt is one year old, so it might be too small? That would be a huge minus.

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re week 5

Some ppl are embarrassed about looking at porn together or sharing their tastes - especially in high school, with a friend who’s clearly gunning to tease you. I can relate (tho I was just uncomfortable with porn in general back then, and thought it was weird)

Yeah. I think she understands it’s just his social anxiety, and the whole date/hangout is kinda really outside his comfort zone; or she could write it off as him half joking - but I’d be a little upset if I were get

I’m also a little confused by that. My best guess was “what’s the point, that’s what we already do all the time anyway”

Good catch - which would explain a little more why he was worried about money that early on (besides that he just didn’t bring enough)

Say what? That’s crazy. Rewinding… The series references totally went right over my head (but they’re not series I care about, nor is the horror stuff they like)

They’re judge-y asshole, shallow high schoolers with arbitrary standards… probably just the all black is enough

Yeah LN illustrations always make all the characters cute ime, regardless of what the text says (which makes sense, cuz your trying to draw ppl in)… Tho my interpretation from the text is that he’s probably not stereotypically attractive, and has terrible fashion sense (acc to arbitrary high school social norms), but is cute in his own way

Interesting thx

I meant it seriously, we agree :slight_smile:

I think it’s more of a social anxiety thing in his case. He’s been anxious the whole time, and he’s finally chilling b/c talking with his friend has gotten his brain out of high alert mode

Good point

Wait - then what’s he assuming is the reason? His skill at games? If so, that seems a bit うぬぼれ of him. If not, I still don’t get what he’s thinking here

I’m beginning to come to the conclusion you don’t like MCs dating :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Jokes aside, I agree with you - given by his own admission last chapter he’s not ready for a relationship at this point

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re week 5

I was not even thinking about sharing tastes, just a quick peak for fun :sweat_smile: I don’t think they would look at anything specific.

Ah, fair point. The current situation is pretty far away from his comfort zone (which is even more exhausting) and doesn’t have the social skills to navigate the situation on autopilot.

The Hellraiser series for instance has one movie that was produced over one month and got released in only one theater. The movie has a high budget (14 million usd, according to Wikipedia) and a box office revenue of 12000 usd. That’s not suspicious at all.

But that’s only based on his view point, which I don’t trust at all.

Unspecified. Hopefully he will reflect back on the date later and tell us. My guess is that he thinks she is trying to be nice.

I like MCs dating when it makes sense. The two series you are referring to are the ones where it doesn’t.

Right? And they are really not giving me the right vibes either. If 前原 has some massive growth (which would take time too), then maybe, but that would still feel weird to me (with her).
You know what, I’m gonna go ahead and ship him (past growth) with 新田 or whatever was her name (ニナ). She will keep not remembering his name until the day he becomes cool, and suddenly she will notice his existence and fall for him. I’m obviously joking.

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re week 5

There’s no way she’d let him get out of there without egging him about which ones he likes… Tho I bet she’d be equally embarrassed if he turned it back on her

Nope, nothing to see here, nothing suspicious at all. That’s fascinating

Idk I’d think he’d have attracted at least some attention if he were conventionally attractive - even if it didn’t go anywhere

I really need to proofread better before posting from my phone :sweat_smile:

I could go either way on the vibes rn. That said I really like seeing a solid friendship portrayed/developing in this sorta novel (or just in general) - so I’m really enjoying it. And as you said, there would need to be some growth before it’s even a possibility. That said there’s still a part of my brain that ships them bc it just auto ships characters

新田 にな… And thank you for the good laugh :rofl: Also this isn’t really a meaningful spoiler, but it is technically future knowledge: She’s the 面食い女 of the cast

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re week 5

He might and then just dismissed it, the way he just over-read the reaction of the people in the class after his self-intro. For the same reason he has no friend, if he just pushes people away when they would be interested in him, well, it’s not surprising he would not get attention. Plus, it’s much more common for women to get random people coming up to you than for men. Also, personally, someone having no friends would be a red flag for me, but that’s beside the point.
Anyway, my point is that we don’t really have any reliable info about his appearance. I do have a personal interest in him being hot for my personal enjoyment, though, so I may be biased.

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In the early part of the chapter,

Early on in Chapter 2

After she rejects the dude and he asks to be friends, she says:

…そういうのなら、余計に入りません。

I didn’t quite get the naunce. Is this: "If that’s the case, I don’t want to be anything more than friends’? or is it: “Asking for that is too much and I don’t want to do it”?

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re ch2 question

The latter. 入りません here = unneeded/unwanted. Basically she wants a clean break rather than being entangled with someone she doesn’t know/isn’t friends with, who probably has ulterior motives

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It’s now Week 6 - ch 2, pt 3

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Fingers crossed, I think I can catch up this week.

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A couple of tricky bits this week but I got the gist of it. Dude kept his cool

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In case anyone else blanks on this: KY = 空気読めない

第2話3分の感想

I’m so glad we finally got to this part!! It’s the first of a few sections I’ve been really looking forward to. As expected, they got found out. Maki handled it surprisingly well, and somewhat terribly - good “deflection via intentional loner status” attempt. Can kinda see both sides here, but she really was being pushy, so it’s understandable he snapped a bit, since he was under pressure.

I really love Maki & Asanagi’s conversation afterwards, though I’m not seeing how it parallels her situation from a year ago, based on what she shared. Also it’s hard to ignore that heart thump, and the quiet (strategically timed?) 下の名前

Individual 突っ込み:

時速120キロのコーナー

球速は朝凪と同じ120キロ

Didn’t you just say this was your first time!!! Do something reachable…

Also idk what normal speeds are for this thing, but that’s above the driving speed limit in my country :open_mouth:

「………………朝凪」
「ん?」
「次はちゃんと打つから」
「お? やる気じゃん。じゃ、また来なきゃね」
「うん」

He’s evolved from “I have to leave the house??” to “alright I guess she’s making me do this in the future, I’ll accept it” to an enthusiastic “I’ll show her next time!” - all in the course of an evening :slight_smile:

大失敗だと思った入学式の自己紹介から数か月。
[Acknowledgement that it actually led to him becoming friends with Asanagi]

And half the club exclaimed “that’s what we’ve been telling you!!” :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

仲良くなりたいと思う人がいても、好きな人ができても、失敗のリスクが行動を妨げる。
だから俺はずっと一人だった。
しかし、失敗したおかげで、俺は朝凪と『友達』をやれている。
失敗したらそこで道が閉ざされるわけじゃなく、そこからまた新しい道が続いている。
そのことを朝凪は教えてくれたのかもしれない

This was such a nice reflection, and I’m glad he learned this. Power of Friendship

It was interesting see that he’s aware he’s a bit too conscious of others, in general, and that that leads to him isolating himself, for fear of getting hurt

え? 夕ちん、知り合い?」
「………………ニナち、この前会ったじゃん。というか、クラスメイトっ」
「ご、ごめんごめん。でもほら、私服だから

Nina is so savage :rofl: I wonder how many more times she’ll forget his name

さりげなくスマホを手にとり、こっそりと朝凪へと通話をかけ、ボタンを押してスピーカー状態にする。

I feel like surreptitiously dialing someone from your pocket was easier to do when phones had actual buttons

しかし、告白のぞきの時に顔を合わせて印象に残っていたとはいえ、この薄暗い店内+黒一色の服装の
俺を良く見つけたものだ。

No, idiot. She’s been clear she recognizes you from class, since the first time you met her. She even gave you her number - you clearly made some impression

「でも、よかった。前原君にもちゃんとそういう友達がいたんだね。クラスでもほとんど一人だったから、実はちょっと心配してたんだ」

See? She actually knows & cares who you are

Also wow that’s really sweet of her

「それはどうも………………でも、どっちかというと、俺は一人でいるほうが好きだから」
「そう?でも、寂しくなったらいつでも声かけていいからね。お昼とか、誘ってくれれば一緒に食べてもいいし」
それはさすがに・・・・・・」

Again, really sweet of her - it seems she not so hung up on all this social ladder stuff. It’s probably be kinda sad at being brushed off, if I were her

天海さんは完全なる善意で言ってくれているのだろうが、だからといって本当に誘ってはいけない。 ぼっちのクセにでしゃばるなよ――天海さんの取り巻き(主に男子たち)から、そういう雰囲気がひしひしと伝わってくる。
「とにかく気持ちだけもらっておくよ。じゃあ、俺はこれで――」
「あ、ちょっと待って

Ouch… For like everyone. Also ugh, at this prejudice nonsense. I have to wonder if don’t if it isn’t just in his head… But also I know it’s just sorta taken for a granted in these sorta stories

ちょっ……………夕ちん、それはさすがに前原君? にも迷惑じゃない? あっちもあっちで都合があるっていうかさ」

She may barely remember his name, but props to Nina for having some emotional & social intelligence, and trying to steer things back on course. Unfortunately…

「・・・・・・申し訳ないけど、絶対に嫌かな」

Ouch, that’s harsh

「色々言っちゃったけど、とにかく今日は俺も『友達』も二人だけで遊ぶ約束だったし、俺も『友達』もそういうノリはあんまりって感じだから・・・・・・その、悪いけど」

So he admitted he’s there with someone

「あ、ちょ、前原く――」
「じゃあ、天海さん。そういうことだから。……………ごめん」
俺はやんわりと天海さんの手を払って、その場を後にする。

Exhibit A: what happens when you push an introvert beyond their limits

そうだったのか………………それならもっと早く声かけてくれてよかったのに」
「そうだけど・・・・……その時の前原は、私にとって初めての男の子の友達になるかもしれない人だったわけだ玢し。失敗したくなかったから、多少は慎重にもなるよ。なかなか声かけるチャンスもなかったし……恥ずでかしいのもあったから」

I love how afraid of failure she is

そうすると、朝凪は四月からずっと俺のことを見ていたことになる。俺に見せるためだけにわざわざ自己紹介カードを作ったり、俺の様子をうかがったり、そんな健気なことを―。
そう考えた瞬間、心臓が不意にとくんと跳ねた。

ああ、しちゃった…

――ありがとね、真樹。
どんどんと意識が遠のいていくなか、耳元でそんな囁きが聞こえたような気がした。

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第2話3分の感想

I was a bit confused by 前原 insisting he is alone, but then everyone including himself just ignores that and go on with the assumption that he is there with a friend.

I initially thought 天海s interest in 前原 was because she knew or suspected he is a friend of 朝凪. But it seems like that’s not it. Maybe 前原 is quite noticeable to everyone for being all alone in class or something.

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Re: ch 2 pt 3

He had Asanagi’s bag, and Amami said she saw him with 2 drinks on the tray he was getting rid of or w/e. So I think it was a pretty transparent lie. As an aside: we didn’t get any details about what her bag looked like… I think it’s the blue bookbag shown in the illustrations (assuming they are a reliable depiction):


It didn’t seem like most of the crowd there realized who he was, or had any interest besides that Amami basically interrupted their hangout to talk to him. So, kinda doubt it. Who knows tho

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It’s now Week 7 - Ch 3 (pt 1/5). If you’re Booklive/Bookwalker, that’s 36%. If Amazon, 34%

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It ends at 36% for me. (Booklive/bookwalker)

Anyway, the book continues to provide developments that make no sense to me. I stopped fighting and I’m just in for the ride, I guess.
The in-world moon may actually be made of cheese, after all.

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This was fun… definitely a random turn of events! I’m looking forward to their rendezvous

ch 3 pt 1/5 impressions

少し考えすぎかもしれないし、ただの取り越し苦労で終わるかもしれないが。

Maki overthinking things? Can’t imagine. That said, I remember what it’s like coming into school that worried about even entering the classroom - so I do feel bad for him

「相談できる相手……」 一応、朝凪がいる。親と自分以外で、唯一俺のスマホの電話帳に登録されている、ちゃんとした友達が。

So I guess he never registered Amami then?

偶然ながら同じ趣味を共有する仲間を見つけて、勇気を出して俺に声をかけて友達になって、そこでようやく逃げ場を見つけることができたのに、その俺が朝凪にもたれかかってはいけない。そんなことをしたら、朝凪の逃げる所がなくなってしまう。

Dude, your thinking is rather warped here. Seeking comfort/help from your friend is normal

まあ、それはあくまで言い訳で、結局は、こんなしょうもない悩みで朝凪に連絡する勇気がないだけなのだが。

Again this makes no sense - you’re in this position bc you were covering for her, and she already said she’d do what she could to help

「……あの、前原君、ちょっといいかな?」
席に座り、教科書を机にしまっているところで、ふわりとした金髪をなびかせた天海さんがこちらに近づいてきたのだ。

This girl knows no fear :joy: like don’t have a private conversation in front of the whole class…

Actually though I think it’s really cool that she came up to him first thing to apologize/smooth things over. And we’ve kinda seen this already, but she doesn’t care about all this pseudo-social caste stuff he and half the class seem to be hung up on. (I can’t write think of the right words… But point is, she clearly doesn’t look down on him

Also do the rest of his classmates seriously have nothing better to do than live gossip??

I love that they’re basically having a 謝罪合戦 now…

「じゃあ、決まりだね! いつにするかはまた連絡するから……えっと、電話番号はこの間教えてもらったやつでいいんだよね?」

天然過ぎて

隠れて様子を観察していた件は朝凪に謝罪して許しをもらっているが、天海さんと一緒にいたことは秘密だったし、ついで連絡先を交換していることも朝凪は知らない。 ということで、俺が恐れていたのは、クラスの連中ではなく。

And thus the problem with secrets

誰からの連絡かなんて、そんなのもうわかり切っている。送った本人は、すでに教科書を出して黒板のほうを見つめているが。
『(朝凪) OK』

Oof, I felt that

朝凪のメッセージを見た瞬間、ひっ、と喉奥から空気が漏れる。 誠心誠意謝罪することになるのは確実だが……果たして朝凪は俺の土下座で許してくれるだろうか。

Poor kid… Tho also this seems a bit extreme

なにせ、親友にすら俺との秘密の友達関係を隠し通してもらっているのだから。
「じゃ、そういうことでよろしくね。前原『君』?」
「よ、よろしく朝凪……さん」
互いに初めて話しましたという雰囲気を出しつつ、握手。

Awkward…

「うん。……もう、ニナちったら相変わらずなんだから」
「え? 新田さん?」
(そ、後ろからつけられてる。うまくやってるけどね) 朝凪が俺の耳元でぼそりと呟く。

Are we in an action show, all of a sudden??

俺は朝凪に言われるまで気づくことができなかったが、付き合いのある二人にはバレバレだったらしまあ、友達ならそのぐらい当然か

Were y’all trying to be secretive or something?? Cuz it sure doesn’t seem like it

Omg did Nina actually run after them?! :joy:

「朝凪」
「なに?」
「なんか、楽しそうじゃん」
「そう?気のせいじゃん?

素直じゃない子ね

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Ah, I see we have the same confusion about the plot. That’s reassuring.

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Umm could you be more specific? I’m guessing you mean towards the end?