# Home Thread for Mentirosa **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Tags:** bookclub\ **Created:** [September 16, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494 "2024-09-16T13:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/1 "2024-09-16T13:53:14Z")
Welcome to the home thread for Mentirosa, as part of the [Spanish fiction book club](http://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-fiction-bookclub-mentirosa-starting-sep-23/6331). ![mentirosa](https://do4ryrayvtpwi.cloudfront.net/original/2X/4/4fe7d476805d8fef045f81cf4de56342650c793a.jpeg) šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ø [Mentirosa | L23](https://learnnatively.com/book/981b74a90d/) > **Summary - Spanish** > > Nina Ɓlvarez lo tiene todo. Es la capitana del equipo de baloncesto del instituto y una de las chicas mĆ”s populares de la escuela. Eso sin contar con su prometedora carrera como influencer en las redes sociales. Un desafortunado comentario en una fiesta. Un vĆ­deo que no deberĆ­a haber subido a las redes y un cĆŗmulo de circunstancias adversas logran que su perfecta imagen se tambalee. Tachada de homĆ³foba, no solo estĆ” perdiendo seguidores en las redes, sino que varias universidades han decidido retirar sus becas para jugar al baloncesto. En pĆ”nico, Nina toma una rĆ”pida decisiĆ³n, saldrĆ” con una de las chicas de su instituto. Alguien a quien sus populares amigas no soportanā€¦ Alexia Taylor. Alexia es todo lo contrario a Nina. Inteligente y callada, no esconde sus preferencias sexuales. Su mĆ”xima aspiraciĆ³n es trabajar un dĆ­a en la NASA y para eso debe mantener unas notas perfectas. Por supuesto, la oferta de Nina no le interesa en absoluto, pero cuando su amiga Cris se mete por el medio, no serĆ” tan fĆ”cil negarse. > **Summary - English** > > (DeepL) Nina Alvarez has it all. Sheā€™s the captain of the high school basketball team and one of the most popular girls in school. Thatā€™s not to mention her promising career as a social media influencer. An unfortunate comment at a party. A video that she shouldnā€™t have uploaded to the networks and a series of adverse circumstances cause her perfect image to falter. Branded a homophobe, not only is she losing followers on the networks, but several universities have decided to withdraw her scholarships to play basketball. Panicked, Nina makes a quick decision, she will date one of the girls from her high school. Someone her popular friends canā€™t standā€¦ Alexia Taylor. Alexia is the complete opposite of Nina. Smart and quiet, she doesnā€™t hide her sexual preferences. Her ultimate aspiration is to one day work at NASA and for that she must maintain perfect grades. Of course, Ninaā€™s offer doesnā€™t interest her at all, but when her friend Cris gets in the way, it wonā€™t be so easy to refuse. **Club Schedule** | Week | Start Date | CapĆ­tulo | Starting page | # of pages | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Week 1 | Sep 23 | 1 | 7 | 11 | | Week 2 | Sep 30 | 2 | 18 | 12 | | Week 3 | Oct 7 | 3-4 | 30 | 17 | | Week 4 | Oct 14 | 5-6 | 47 | 21 | | Week 5 | Oct 21 | 7-8 | 71 | 23 | | Week 6 | Oct 28 | 9-10 | 91 | 21 | | Week 7 | Nov 4 | 11-12 | 111 | 18 | | Week 8 | Nov 11 | 13-14 | 127 | 16 | | Week 9 | Nov 18 | 15 | 149 | 13 | | Week 10 | Nov 25 | 16 | 163 | 14 | | Week 11 | Dec 2 | 17-18 | 170 | 18 | | Week 12 | Dec 9 | 19-20 | 182 | 18 | | Week 13 | Dec 16 | 21-22 | 200 | 17 | | Week 14 | Dec 23 | 23-24 | 218 | 17 | | Week 15 | Dec 30 | 25-27 | 233 | 19 | | Week 16 | Jan 6 | 28-29 | 256 | 14 | _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/1))_ _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/1))_ ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/2 "2024-09-16T13:54:18Z")
Quick question for our participants: do we want to keep all discussion in this thread, since weā€™re a small group, or split each weekā€™s reading into its own thread? _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/2))_ ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/3 "2024-09-17T14:29:08Z")
Okay, letā€™s check on the schedule: > **Mentirosa TOC** > > | CapĆ­tulo | Starting page | # of pages | > | --- | --- | --- | > | 1 | 7 | 11 | > | 2 | 18 | 12 | > | 3 | 30 | 7 | > | 4 | 37 | 10 | > | 5 | 47 | 10 | > | 6 | 58 | 11 | > | 7 | 71 | 13 | > | 8 | 81 | 10 | > | 9 | 91 | 10 | > | 10 | 102 | 11 | > | 11 | 111 | 9 | > | 12 | 120 | 9 | > | 13 | 127 | 7 | > | 14 | 136 | 9 | > | 15 | 149 | 13 | > | 16 | 163 | 14 | > | 17 | 170 | 13 | > | 18 | 175 | 5 | > | 19 | 182 | 7 | > | 20 | 193 | 11 | > | 21 | 200 | 7 | > | 22 | 210 | 10 | > | 23 | 218 | 8 | > | 24 | 227 | 9 | > | 25 | 233 | 6 | > | 26 | 239 | 6 | > | 27 | 246 | 7 | > | 28 | 256 | 10 | > | 29 | 265 | 4 | These chapters are really short, as you can see. _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/3))_ ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/belerith/32/60_2.png) [@Belerith](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/4 "2024-09-17T16:37:23Z")
I can probably do 20 pages a week I think? This is the easy one after all. Maybe with a week to ease inā€¦ Iā€™m not too sure, but Iā€™m willing to risk it. šŸ˜‚ ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/5 "2024-09-19T15:12:09Z")
Okay, looks like weā€™re all of a pretty similar mindset. How about just a chapter a week for the first two weeks, then we ramp up to 20 pgs/week? So the schedule would look like this: | Week | CapĆ­tulo | Starting page | # of pages | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Week 1 | 1 | 7 | 11 | | Week 2 | 2 | 18 | 12 | | Week 3 | 3-4 | 30 | 17 | | Week 4 | 5-6 | 47 | 21 | | Week 5 | 7-8 | 71 | 23 | | Week 6 | 9-10 | 91 | 21 | | Week 7 | 11-12 | 111 | 18 | | Week 8 | 13-14 | 127 | 16 | | Week 9 | 15 | 149 | 13 | | Week 10 | 16 | 163 | 14 | | Week 11 | 17-18 | 170 | 18 | | Week 12 | 19-20 | 182 | 18 | | Week 13 | 21-22 | 200 | 17 | | Week 14 | 23-24 | 218 | 17 | | Week 15 | 25-27 | 233 | 19 | | Week 16 | 28-29 | 256 | 14 | ---
**Author:** ![Micki](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/micki/32/8805_2.png) [@Micki](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Micki)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/6 "2024-09-19T17:53:31Z")
That looks good to me thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/belerith/32/60_2.png) [@Belerith](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/7 "2024-09-19T21:07:33Z")
Looks good to me too. šŸ™‚ Except we could maybe combine chapters 17&18 and 19&20, that would make for a more even page count. Nothing to be done for the 23 page count in week 5 that I can see. ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/8 "2024-09-19T21:20:18Z")
> [@Belerith](#): > > Except we could maybe combine chapters 17&18 and 19&20, that would make for a more even page count. Ah, youā€™re right; I can make that change. ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/9 "2024-09-23T12:54:29Z")
Week 1 starts today! ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/belerith/32/60_2.png) [@Belerith](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/10 "2024-09-24T12:45:50Z")
And I have my very first question of the book! šŸ˜œ At the 3% mark, the last sentence before the first \*\*\* break. Me he visto obligada a asumir el papel de madre el pasado aƱo, con tan solo diecisiete aƱos cuando no me corresponde y estoy harta de ello. I think I get the meaning: I had to assume the role of mother the past year, which at only 16 yrs old is just not right, and Iā€™m tired of it. Iā€™m having trouble understanding how ā€˜con tan solo diecisiete aƱos cuando no me correspondeā€™ works here. How do ā€˜cuandoā€™ and ā€˜con tan soloā€™ here work grammatically? ---
**Author:** ![Micki](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/micki/32/8805_2.png) [@Micki](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Micki)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/11 "2024-09-24T15:34:16Z")
I think itā€™s just one phrase following another - Iā€™m only 17 and itā€™s not my job ![IMG_4027](https://do4ryrayvtpwi.cloudfront.net/original/2X/5/5fc797ab478e428262bf87a107e1e98359a1e253.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/belerith/32/60_2.png) [@Belerith](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/12 "2024-09-24T19:12:18Z")
Thanks for the link, it think thatā€™s one of the pieces I was missing. I just still donā€™t get how these sentences work grammatically. šŸ˜… I suppose itā€™s not that important as long as I am understanding the meaning, but itā€™s bugging me. ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/13 "2024-09-24T20:55:43Z")
> [@Belerith](#): > > How do ā€˜cuandoā€™ and ā€˜con tan soloā€™ here work grammatically? Looks like ā€˜con tan soloā€™ is [a set phrase](https://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=con%20tan%20solo), if that helps. Just finished **week 1** ; Iā€™m liking the set-up so far. 16 is the minimum age you can get a job, right? I wonder if the sister has one/is looking for one. Ninaā€™s only source of income appears to be being an influencer; I wonder how popular she is. She must have a small (or maybe even medium) number of followers at least for that to pay for anything. I donā€™t remember the summary on the book, so they might already address it there, but: makes me cringe when high schooler just about to compete nationally blows off the danger of a drug test because itā€™s ā€œa violation of privacyā€. Uh-huh, sure. You go ahead and use that excuse. Shame to see Ninaā€™s national chances go up in smoke like that, and no oneā€™s even done any drugs yet. ---
**Author:** ![Micki](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/micki/32/8805_2.png) [@Micki](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Micki)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/14 "2024-09-24T21:08:10Z")
> [@Belerith](#): > > Me he visto obligada a asumir el papel de madre el pasado aƱo, con tan solo diecisiete aƱos cuando no me corresponde y estoy harta de ello. > **Summary** > > I would break it down as: > > _Me he visto obligada a asumir el papel de madre el pasado aƱo_ - Iā€™ve found myself obliged to take on the role of mother the last year > > _con tan solo diecisiete aƱos_ - at only 17 years old > > _cuando no me corresponde_ - when itā€™s not my job > > _y estoy harta de ello_ - and Iā€™m fed up with it > > The phrases for talking about age are constructed differently in Spanish to how we use them in English. Even the basic - _tengo 17 aƱos_ (lit I have 17 years) sounds weird when you first learn it. I hadnā€™t thought of _con tan solo_ as being a set phrase but maybe thatā€™s a useful way to think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/belerith/32/60_2.png) [@Belerith](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/15 "2024-09-25T16:38:56Z")
> [@eefara](#): > > Looks like ā€˜con tan soloā€™ is [a set phrase](https://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=con%20tan%20solo), if that helps. Another piece to the puzzle! That does help thank you. šŸ™‚ And thank you for the breakdown, @Micki , that helped a lot! I think Iā€™m fine with that sentence now. ---
**Author:** ![Micki](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/micki/32/8805_2.png) [@Micki](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Micki)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/16 "2024-09-26T22:10:16Z")
> **Week 1** > > What a contrast to our last book! From the tech free world of the Amazon rainforest, chapter one was full of social media references. Also some nice slang words, yes Iā€™m talking about you gilipollas! > > It feels _very_ teenage! Iā€™m not sure quite what Iā€™ve let myself in for on this one! ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/belerith/32/60_2.png) [@Belerith](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/17 "2024-09-27T11:00:53Z")
Iā€™m done with week 1! > [@Micki](#): > > It feels _very_ teenage! It does! Haha. Iā€™m having to do so few lookups compared to our previous book. There was only the one sentence I couldnā€™t figure out on my own, so Iā€™m fairly positive I can read along with the schedule already. Iā€¦ Have a problem with numbers, apparently. Nina is 17, and her sister Mariana is 15, right? > [@eefara](#): > > 16 is the minimum age you can get a job, right? I wonder if the sister has one/is looking for one. If so, the sister canā€™t get a job yet. Quince is 15 right? šŸ˜‚ I am surprised she apparently also canā€™t cook or reliably use a microwave. Something went wrong there. First thing I do when Iā€™m suddenly responsible for all the cooking is enlist my only 2 yrs younger sibling to help, isnā€™t it? Of course, this is Ninaā€™s thoughts, sheā€™s probably just being mean to her younger sister here. She does seem rather stressed alreadyā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/18 "2024-09-27T13:24:37Z")
> [@Belerith](#): > > If so, the sister canā€™t get a job yet. Quince is 15 right? šŸ˜‚ Oh shoot; I mustā€™ve misread the age, then. ---
**Author:** ![Belerith](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/belerith/32/60_2.png) [@Belerith](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Belerith)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/19 "2024-09-27T18:13:50Z")
I had a moment like that when I first quoted the sentence I had trouble with: it says diecisiete right there and I wrote it too, and I still got sixteen from that. šŸ˜‚ ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/home-thread-for-mentirosa/11494/20 "2024-09-30T13:22:20Z")
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