# Product Updates & Casual Natively Discussion

**URL:** <https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18>\
**Category:** Natively\
**Created:** [June 12, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18 "2022-06-12T09:03:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1510 "2023-09-25T01:57:14Z")

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> [@Jintor](#):
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> Could just be a flat x people found this helpful like on Amazon

Yeah I think a simply heart mechanism to show you liked a review would be really nice. Definitely will do at some point, probably next year.

My suspicion is that the stickers & reactions might come later, but interesting idea too.

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**Author:** ![暁のルナ](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/%E6%9A%81%E3%81%AE%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8A/32/23775_2.png) [@暁のルナ](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/%E6%9A%81%E3%81%AE%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8A)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1511 "2023-09-28T08:01:09Z")

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> [@Jintor](#):
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> I wanted to throw this one out there, how do people feel about being able to rate reviews? I often find some book reviews are more helpful than others

Rather than rating, I’ve thought it _might_ be cool to have feedback or replies. For example, if I wrote about New Game that I thought Yun’s Kansai accent was on the lighter side, but @seanblue pointed out that actually Yun’s Kansai-ben has xyz features, making it not so light - that might be useful to know. (just an example from a previous forum discussion). Anyway I’m a bit skeptical of that idea bc it’s hard to ensure people stay constructive, and people might not want that feedback or discussion in the first place (and there’s before getting into UI/UX considerations).

What do you see as the benefit of rating reviews exactly?

> [@brandon](#):
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> Yeah I think a simply heart mechanism to show you liked a review would be really nice. Definitely will do at some point, probably next year.

Would it be possible to do this without displaying it to other users? Meaning the author sees “so and so liked your review”, but other viewers just see the review itself.

Tbh while I think I get/appreciate the intent, having visible likes/hearts on reviews makes me pretty uncomfortable, and I don’t really see what benefit they would add.

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**Author:** ![Biblio](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/biblio/32/81_2.png) [@Biblio](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Biblio)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1512 "2023-09-28T08:55:00Z")

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> [@暁のルナ](#):
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> Tbh while I think I get/appreciate the intent, having visible likes/hearts on reviews makes me pretty uncomfortable, and I don’t really see what benefit they would add.

I see it as a “this review was helpful” kinda thing that amazon (I think) also does.

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**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1513 "2023-09-28T08:58:08Z")

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I would encourage @Jintor to log a product request for this so all this conversation doesn’t get lost and I do think there’s interest in this.

> [@暁のルナ](#):
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> Tbh while I think I get/appreciate the intent, having visible likes/hearts on reviews makes me pretty uncomfortable, and I don’t really see what benefit they would add.

I get feeling uncomfortable if you feel that your large-effort review isn’t being appreciated or that all of sudden it feel like more of a game. But I think it’s also just showing appreciation for people who really do put a lot of effort into their reviews and potentially prioritize showcasing them!

I think we have a pretty positive community - the larger the effort will definitely get some hearts 🙂

But happy to discuss more in the product request thread! Would love to hear your perspective.

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**Author:** ![cat](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/cat/32/2344_2.png) [@cat](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/cat)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1514 "2023-09-28T14:31:42Z")

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> [@暁のルナ](#):
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> Rather than rating, I’ve thought it _might_ be cool to have feedback or replies

I think that would make me stop writing reviews entirely. 😅 I can easily see it devolving into arguments about why I did or didn’t like a certain book, or my view of its difficulty being “wrong”. An isolated review is harder to to maintain positive community around compared to a conversation setting like a forum.

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**Author:** ![暁のルナ](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/%E6%9A%81%E3%81%AE%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8A/32/23775_2.png) [@暁のルナ](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/%E6%9A%81%E3%81%AE%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8A)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1516 "2023-09-28T15:01:42Z")

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Yeah, that’s more or less why I never suggested it before, and honestly would probably vote against it, if it became an actual suggestion… Maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned it? 😅

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**Author:** ![Biblio](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/biblio/32/81_2.png) [@Biblio](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Biblio)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1517 "2023-09-28T15:38:45Z")

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> [@cat](#):
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> devolving into arguments

this. I have seen it on GR countless times. If this becomes a feature, it needs an “opt out” option. 😅

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**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1518 "2023-09-28T15:48:41Z")

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Yeah, FWIW I have a pretty strong inclination against comment threads on reviews, but of course will hear all arguments 🙂

I’d be much more inclined to have a ‘ask the reviewer’ forum thread where you ping a reviewer a question. Also if you link to the review, you could search the thread to see if that review already had questions.

Granted, the reviewer would have to be active in the forums, but I think that’s appropriate.

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**Author:** ![暁のルナ](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/%E6%9A%81%E3%81%AE%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8A/32/23775_2.png) [@暁のルナ](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/%E6%9A%81%E3%81%AE%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8A)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1519 "2023-09-28T17:25:06Z")

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> [@Biblio](#):
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> I see it as a “this review was helpful” kinda thing that amazon (I think) also does.

That’s exactly the sorta of thing I feel bothered by tbh.

> [@brandon](#):
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> But happy to discuss more in the product request thread! Would love to hear your perspective.

I think I’ll wait till that exists before getting into it more, and I appreciate the openness 🙂

Partially I wonder whether I’m making a big deal out of nothing, in my head… Which is why I didn’t say anything the last time this got mentioned

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**Author:** ![seanblue](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/seanblue/32/3251_2.png) [@seanblue](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/seanblue)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1520 "2023-09-28T18:52:50Z")

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I agree that it would be a bad idea to allow comments on reviews. If you strongly disagree with a review you can always write your own review. I did this once when a reviewer was like “this is a yuri anime and the MC tries to get all her classmates to fall in love with her” and I was like “uhh what? Did we even watch the same show?” 😆 But by not having comments I was forced to give a proper review along with this correction, which I think is for the better.

I do like the idea of upvotes, though it probably won’t add much value until the site had a lot more reviews.

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**Author:** ![Megumin](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/megumin/32/1227_2.png) [@Megumin](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Megumin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1521 "2023-09-28T19:03:23Z")

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Exactly this.

I think it’s more healthy to “force” people to write reviews to oppose others, and then let the viewer decide based on all the reviews, than going through a possible comment hell-hole.

It’s also more work for moderating.

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**Author:** ![pm215](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/pm215/32/1320_2.png) [@pm215](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/pm215)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1522 "2023-09-28T19:15:33Z")

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> [@seanblue](#):
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> I do like the idea of upvotes, though it probably won’t add much value until the site had a lot more reviews.

Mmm, most of the books I’ve reviewed I’m the only reviewer, so you get my opinion or nothing anyway 🙂 I dunno about upvotes; I suspect that for books where there are a lot of reviews it will tend to mean the earlier reviews get more upvotes and reviews from people who come late to the book will languish at the bottom of the list.

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**Author:** ![omk3](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/omk3/32/94_2.png) [@omk3](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/omk3)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1523 "2023-09-28T19:30:38Z")

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It seems we’re discussing this here after all, so I’ll say that I also wouldn’t like reactions to reviews. I guess likes wouldn’t hurt (it’s nice to see someone appreciated what you wrote), but on the other hand, a review with no likes would cause unnecessary worry, and older reviews would naturally get more likes without being necessarily better. I think that until we reach Amazon-like review numbers, there’s no need to order or rate reviews in any way.

We could have a questions section though, separate from the forum. On each book’s (or movie’s or whatever) page, you could choose to ask a question about it, and anyone who’s read it can answer. That might be a useful feature.

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**Author:** ![Jintor](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/jintor/32/3476_2.png) [@Jintor](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Jintor)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1524 "2023-09-29T02:28:46Z")

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I was a bit hesitant to bring it up precisely because of review-brigading etc on GR etc. It was more of a passing thought. I do think there are some reviews that I find more helpful than others, but I definitely don’t have a strong set of arguments for positives at this stage, so happy to leave it.

A q+a section is a good idea though.

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**Author:** ![seanblue](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/seanblue/32/3251_2.png) [@seanblue](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/seanblue)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1525 "2023-10-01T02:20:36Z")

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Is there typically a delay with ratings on a series page getting updated? I rated volume 3 of [青のフラッグ (series) | L24](https://learnnatively.com/series/42f7750832/) earlier today, but it still appears as unrated on the series page.

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**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1526 "2023-10-01T07:47:02Z")

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> [@seanblue](#):
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> I rated volume 3 of [青のフラッグ (series) | L24](https://learnnatively.com/series/42f7750832/) earlier today, but it still appears as unrated on the series page.

Sorry about that - the background processing server went down for a little while (~20 hrs before I noticed the alarm). Should be good now 🙂

They do usually update on the hour yes.

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1527 "2023-10-03T03:30:35Z")

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I feel like this has been addressed before - if a TV show shows 0 minutes for all episodes is there a way to update that without manually entering time per episode? The show has been recently synced so that’s not the issue.

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**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1528 "2023-10-03T05:11:59Z")

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Does the show have more than 0 minutes now after synced? Is the issue just that you aren’t being attributed minutes watched for the updated episode runtimes?

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1529 "2023-10-03T05:20:19Z")

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None of the episodes have any minutes, despite being synced today according to the page - here is the show in question: [ノッキンオン・ロックドドア S1 | L34](https://learnnatively.com/season/b88cf2fed5/)

 ![image](https://do4ryrayvtpwi.cloudfront.net/original/2X/5/5719405ef2255962d3f0e405f74d3565ccbb82d0.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/product-updates-casual-natively-discussion/18/1530 "2023-10-03T05:40:17Z")

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> [@cat](#):
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> None of the episodes have any minutes, despite being synced today according to the page - here is the show in question: [ノッキンオン・ロックドドア S1 | L33??](https://learnnatively.com/season/b88cf2fed5/)

Ah yeah, the episode runtimes aren’t on TMDB 😕

If possible, I’d recommend you updating the runtimes on TMDB and then syncing.

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