Product Updates & Casual Natively Discussion

Wait, the Japanese and Korean sections of the site will be completely separate, right?

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Fair enough!

I’m hoping for something in user settings for which language(s) you’re learning. I can’t imagine many people would want to see anything on the site (activity feed, search, etc.) for a language they’re not learning.

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@brandon Number one priority after Korean please. :joy:

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Yes, there will be a top nav toggle for language. Everything will be filtered by that language (activities, search, user profiles & libraries, stats, forum feeds… etc). Forums will have one top level category per language (Korean, Japanese) with the current Watching/Reading categories moving to subcategories (Book Clubs will be a sub-sub category). The Natively category will remain top level.

All in all, if you’re only interested in Japanese, it’ll be like nothing happened :slight_smile:

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Famous last words. :joy:

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The one thing that is more annoying to me is that when I login to the site, I have to click this 2 times:

  • Open forum → get popup
  • Press login, get redirected to the actual site to login → get popup second time :confused:
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Reminds me of

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Screenshot 2023-06-25 at 22.53.52

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Just write another review and contribute one more book and it’ll look right… :sweat_smile:

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Ok everyone! In preparation for Korean, I went ahead and made a ‘Japanese’ top level category here in the Forums. Natively remains it’s own top level category, outside Japanese.

You’ll also notice that the ‘Language Learning’ category is now gone… but don’t worry. In actuality, I simply changed the ‘Language Learning’ category into the top level ‘Japanese’ category… so all your threads live there now. I think that’s more intuitive now as the ‘Language Learning’ category confused people.

Secondly, since there are now sub-sub categories (looking at you Book Clubs), the UI has changed slightly on the base homepage. You don’t get the quick descriptions for Reading/Watching categories anymore, but I don’t think that’s a big deal.

I’ve double checked that past links work, so no worries on url changes. Let me know if you have any issues with it!

Edit: FYI, the ‘forums’ feed on your Natively dashboard will show all Natively & Japanese threads. Only in Korean mode will you see Korean threads instead of Japanese.

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I’m not sure whether it would be correct to file a product request or not, so I’ll ask you here @brandon: would it be possible to create some sort of script that can go through and correct author names to have spaces if there’s a known author name with spaces in it? I know Amazon’s super inconsistent with it, so we end up with a ton of series that list “Various Authors” when in fact there’s only one author, but Natively treats, for example, 松岡なつき and 松岡 なつき as two separate people, leading to the “Various Authors” bit.

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Is there a way to lock the order of the categories on the forum home page? On WaniKani it’s always in a fixed order, but here it changes based on which has the most recent posts, which I find jarring.

(Though honestly, now that we can’t see the topics for the Reading and Watching categories from the home page, that view is pretty much useless anyway.)

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Mmm, it does seem to have inadvertently resulted in that top level page having a less useful view of forum activity. I feel like I need to click through to the Japanese page much more now.

I’m not sure I follow. You can still see the latest topics in all categories on the homepage? What topics aren’t you able to see?

You used to get (if I remember correctly) 3 recent topics in ‘Natively’, 3 in ‘Language Learning’, 3 in ‘Reading’ and 3 in ‘Watching’. Now you only get 3 in ‘Natively’ and 3 in ‘Japanese’, so half as many as before and 3 of the 4 subcategories have got merged into one so all their threads are mixed together and competing for those 3 slots. This forum moves slowly enough that in the old view the top level page was enough for me to see all the changed threads since my last visit, but in the new view it’s not.

This isn’t a big deal, though, and I can see why the impending addition of Korean means things need to move around.

Edit: to clarify, this is the mobile UI.

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It’s as @pm215 said on mobile in particular. Previously there’d always be three Reading and three Watching topics, but now just three of anything in the Japanese category. I usually just go to New and Unread anyway, so not a huge deal for me, but it was nice being able to see things at a glance. I’m not sure there’s anything you can do about it, it’s just a bit unfortunate.

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Ah I see now, yeah the mobile UI has changed quite a bit, that is unfortunate.

The only possible solution I can do is perhaps tweaking the main site’s dashboard feed to give you a similar “3 per category” view. But not much more I can do about the forum.

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Found the setting… now the categories should be fixed.

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I’ve now moved Video out of beta, per the feedback we’ve received… so you’ll now see things fully graded :slight_smile:

There’s still a lot of work to do, but i think it’s ok to showcase grades we have a lot of comparisons on.

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Something weird is going on after changing the category structure. Previously you could go to the bottom of a topic and see recommendations for other topics. This would show new and unread topics first. Now I don’t see any of those and only one (already read) topic instead of the usual ~5. :cry:

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