# \[REF\] MBC Off-Shoot : 🏴 💀 🏯 黒死館殺人事件 🏯 💀 🏴 - REFERENCE THREAD **URL:** \ **Category:** Book Clubs\ **Created:** [August 16, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/ref-mbc-off-shoot-reference-thread/18095 "2025-08-16T16:34:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 11
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**Chapter 1 - 第一篇 死体と二つの扉を繞めぐって** **1.3 - 屍光故ゆえなくしては** [Home Thread](http://forums.learnnatively.com/t/mystery-book-club-off-shoot-scheduled-sept-1st/18023/19) [Japanese Wiki](https://klio.icurus.jp/kck-dic/dic_dic/ki04.html) > **"スウェーデンボルグかジョン・ウェスレイ（メソジスト教会の創立者）でもあるのでした"** > > This is [Emanuel Swedenborg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Swedenborg) in his later years, when he took a mystic turn, and [John Wesley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley), the founder of Methodism. On a side note, is/was Swedenborg so famous with the japanese public so as not to warrant a side note, but Wesley wasn’t ??? > **"マックレンブルグ魔法"** > > This probably references [Sophie of Mecklenburg-Gürstow](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_of_Mecklenburg-G%C3%BCstrow), Queen of Denmark; O also found an [article](https://academic.oup.com/arthistory/article-abstract/43/2/384/7455982?redirectedFrom=fulltext) that apparently refers to jewellery as magical artifact commissioned by the daughter of Sophie of Mecklenburg-Gürstow… but I don’t have access to the full-text and couldn’t research further. > **"そうすれば、その六人の者が、犬のごとく己れの吐きたるものに帰り来る――とでもお考えなのですか"** > > Refers to [St Peter’s 2nd Epistle, 2:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter%202%3A22&version=NIV) in the Bible > **"しかし、何が算哲と叫ばせたものでしょうな」と法水は再び疑念を繰り返してから、「実は、夫人が断末魔にテレーズと書いたメモが、寝台の下に落ちていたのですよ。ですから、幻覚を起すような生理か、何か精神に異常らしいところでも……。時に、貴女はヴルフェンをお読みになったことがありますか"** > > Likely references [Erich Wullfen - german Wikipedia page only](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Wulffen) who worked as a criminologist; here’s an [english-language article](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327121507_Erich_Wulffen_and_the_case_of_the_criminal) about his work. > **"既に洗ってしまったでしょう。ですが、そういう御質問をなさると、ヘルマン（十九世紀の毒物学者）が嗤いますわ"** > > Unclear. There’s a [Hans Rudolph Hermann](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rudolph_Hermann)[(ru)](https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD,_%D0%98%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%84_%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%84%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87) who was a chemist, and a [Rudolph Kobert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Kobert) who was a toxicologist. Maybe a mix of the two ? > **"一つの物云う象徴［＃「物云う象徴」は底本では「物云う象徴」］が作られていった"** > > Most probably a nod to Edgar Allan Poe’s [The Tell-Tale Heart](https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2148/2148-h/2148-h.htm#chap2.20) > **"茶立蟲"** > > [Psocids](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psocoptera), also known as book lice. Some make a [noise](https://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/tools-and-resources/identification/what-is-this-bug/booklicepsocids) when they bang their abdomen against paper > **"ヴェルレーヌの詩が……」"** > > Most probably [Paul Verlaine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Verlaine)’s poem [Ariettes Oubliées V](https://www.eternels-eclairs.fr/Poeme-Paul-Verlaine-Ariettes-oubliees-V) [(english version)](https://www.lieder.net/lieder/get_text.html?TextId=129585). There is no mention of a chisel, but of the gentle sound of wings, which goes well with the Psocids. > **"「ところが、死点と云えるものは、けっして網膜の上や、音響学ばかりにじゃないからね。フリーマンは織目の隙から、特殊な貝殻粉を潜り込ましている」"** > > Possibly a reference to [R.Austin Freeman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Austin_Freeman), a british detective story writer, whose detective, [Dr Thorndyke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Thorndyke) apparently resolves several cases throught the use of dusts, barely visible footprints, etc… > **"「いや、それが紀長谷雄卿の故事なのさ。鬼の娘が水になって消えてしまったって」"** > > This references [紀長谷雄](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ki_no_Haseo), a japanese poet, scholar an diplomat from the Heian period. And here is the [story](https://japan-forward.com/happy-setsubun-a-gambler-demon-story-to-enjoy-this-season/) ! > > > **"あの立法者の像なども、明白に迷宮の暗示ではありませんか。あれは、たしかマリエットが、埋葬地にある迷宮の入口で発見したのですからね"** > > > > This is [Auguste Mariette](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Mariette), one of the fathers of egyptology. While excavating the [Serapeum of Saqqara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapeum_of_Saqqara), he did find the famous [seated scribe statue](https://collections.louvre.fr/en/ark:/53355/cl010006582). As for the [Crocodilopolis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faiyum#Ancient_history) [Labyrinth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Egypt), it has no direct link to Mariette. I couldn’t fnd any reference to scribe statues specifically marking the entrance to this or other labyrinths > > > > > > **"僧正ウォーターとアレツオ、弁証派のマキシムス、アラゴニアの聖ラケル……もう四人ほどあったと思います。しかし、それ等は要するに、奇蹟売買人の悪業にすぎないことでしょう"** > > > > This references [Walter of Mortagne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_of_Mortagne) and [Maximus the Confessor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximus_the_Confessor); I couldn’t find any saint or mystic nalmed Rachel of Aragon, and no specific tradition or myth about a miraculous corpse related to this region. アレツオ could be [Donatus of Arezzo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donatus_of_Arezzo) who was martyred, though there is no mention of his corpse has having miraculous properties (there is, however, the miracle of a [glowing Madonna](https://diocesi.arezzo.it/2013/02/01/storia-della-madonna-del-conforto/?utm_source=chatgpt.com) in Arezzo, but no link to St donatus). [Miraculous lights](https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10078b.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com) are said to appear over Maximus’s grave. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/ref-mbc-off-shoot-reference-thread/18095)._