# Spanish Beta - Feedback from Spanish Users & CEFR Update! **URL:** \ **Category:** Spanish\ **Created:** [December 29, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231 "2023-12-29T00:21:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/1 "2023-12-29T00:21:57Z")
¡Hola a todos! As you may have noticed, I have added Spanish to the site! Spanish users, let me know what you think! And any feedback you have, let me know. If you encounter a bug, be sure to log a bug report in the [Product Requests category](http://forums.learnnatively.com/c/natively/product-requests/8). Below i’ve included some current requests which would really help Spanish flourish on Natively.. help us out! **Request[s]:** - See my [Grading Update](http://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-request-for-spanish-lists/6231/55) - Do you know a large free graded readers series online? In both [Japanese](https://learnnatively.com/series/c78f246213/) and [Korean](https://learnnatively.com/series/b17fd8dacb/), we’ve found wonderful graded readers series which contain hundreds of free ebooks spanning from super beginner to A2/B1 level. Adding one of these to the site really helps! ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/2 "2023-12-29T00:52:40Z")
Oh daaang. Brandon passing the ball back into my court to get off my butt and work on my Spanish. ;\_; ---
**Author:** ![fallynleaf](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/fallynleaf/32/5544_2.png) [@fallynleaf](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/fallynleaf)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/3 "2023-12-29T02:19:05Z")
¡Muchas gracias! I added everything I’ve read and own! Tried my best to tag them and grade them, though I fear there’s a strong chance I vastly under-graded them, haha, as unlike with Japanese, since I’ve been reading in Spanish pretty much entirely on my own, I don’t really have a strong understanding of what exactly falls into most people’s definition of beginner/intermediate/advanced with Spanish media… 😅 ---
**Author:** ![NihongoLearner19](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/nihongolearner19/32/457_2.png) [@NihongoLearner19](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/NihongoLearner19)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/4 "2023-12-29T04:58:11Z")
I added what I’ve read, DNFed, and want to read! ¡Tengo ganas de leer más en español! Muchas gracias. I wasn’t sure how to classify some of the books (i.e., libros por jovenes) that I would call novels for young adults such as [El príncipe de la niebla](https://learnnatively.com/book/fda9b279ea/) or [El príncipe del sol](https://learnnatively.com/book/c748a130ed/), which aren’t children’s books but also aren’t “literary” in the same way as something by Isabel Allende. I don’t know if I would call them “light novels,” even though I saw the option so I just called them all novels for now. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![fallynleaf](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/fallynleaf/32/5544_2.png) [@fallynleaf](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/fallynleaf)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/5 "2023-12-29T07:16:20Z")
> [@NihongoLearner19](#): > > I wasn’t sure how to classify some of the books (i.e., libros por jovenes) that I would call novels for young adults I also had a bit of trouble with this! It might be worth making a separate category for young adult novels, as they’re generally easier than many adult books, but are harder than children’s books. I ended up classifying the ones I added as “children’s books” because from a language learner perspective, I felt they were significantly easier than the adult books I’d been reading, but they’re certainly harder than some of the children’s books I’ve read… At the very least, qualifying exactly what’s a “children’s book”, what’s a “light novel”, and what’s a “novel” might be a good idea, as those categories can be a bit subjective (and light novels are sort of Japan-specific). Also, could we get a couple new tags for popular Spanish-language genres, such as telenovelas and magical realism? Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![CatDQ](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/catdq/32/670_2.png) [@CatDQ](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/CatDQ)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/6 "2023-12-29T09:54:15Z")
Nice 🕶 Looks like I’ll need to pick up Spanish again. Is it all Spanish variants or just Castilian Spanish the site will use? ---
**Author:** ![Megumin](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/megumin/32/1227_2.png) [@Megumin](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Megumin)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/7 "2023-12-29T09:55:10Z")
> [@CatDQ](#): > > Is it all Spanish variants or just Castilian Spanish the site will use? I was wondering about that can of worms how it would be dealt… ---
**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/8 "2023-12-29T12:13:12Z")
I was thinking we just handle these variants with tags. If we find that gradings across variants causes a lot issues, we could always prioritize same accents… but for now, I think we just don’t worry about it. What do we think on that? ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/9 "2023-12-29T12:52:44Z")
> [@NihongoLearner19](#): > > I wasn’t sure how to classify some of the books (i.e., libros por jovenes) that I would call novels for young adults I’ve been marking them as “light novels” myself. It’s not a perfect fit, given how LN is more of a Japan-centric category. > [@brandon](#): > > I was thinking we just handle these variants with tags. If we find that gradings across variants causes a lot issues, we could always prioritize same accents… but for now, I think we just don’t worry about it. That’s my same thought; don’t worry about it until it becomes a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Megumin](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/megumin/32/1227_2.png) [@Megumin](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Megumin)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/10 "2023-12-29T13:00:59Z")
> [@brandon](#): > > What do we think on that? The problem I see is that someone that is studying Castilian will find Latin American books harder and vice-versa. But I guess as long as it can be tracked which is which, it can be recalculated later… There’s also the issue with duplicates. Is going to be harder to find what edition is what with the tags, unless every book/media is tagged properly and you can filter them out. ---
**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/11 "2023-12-29T13:06:50Z")
> [@Megumin](#): > > There’s also the issue with duplicates. I’m not sure i’m following you here 🤔 > [@Megumin](#): > > Is going to be harder to find what edition is what with the tags, unless every book/media is tagged properly and you can filter them out. Right. I mean, whatever we do won’t be totally perfect, but I have hope it’ll be ok… and definitely better than anything else out there! Even if it’s not completely tagged, the amount of resources we can give for specific dialects will be pretty great I think ☺ ---
**Author:** ![Megumin](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/megumin/32/1227_2.png) [@Megumin](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Megumin)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/12 "2023-12-29T13:08:48Z")
> [@brandon](#): > > I’m not sure i’m following you here 🤔 There’s bound to be Latin American and Castilian of most published books/mangas. While this is less predominant in TV/Movie media, it’s also the case. ---
**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/13 "2023-12-29T13:12:09Z")
Ah, interesting. Well, wouldn’t that simply be a separate edition? Or, if the words are different, simply a different book? If you’re just worried that it’ll increase edition issues as they won’t have the same amazon page, that’s possibly true. ---
**Author:** ![Megumin](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/megumin/32/1227_2.png) [@Megumin](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Megumin)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/14 "2023-12-29T13:16:57Z")
Where I see issues: - Searching books to your variant liking. – You have to click on the book to know which one is which, unless it’s filtered by tags. - Different difficulties – As mentioned earlier, this is a perception issue more than anything else. For me a Latin American book is harder than a Spanish one, because some words or expressions are not used here and vice-versa. - Grading books – With the current interface, someone that read both Castilian and Latin American would get two same titles and not know which is which (except maybe for the cover). This might be rare, but I’ve seen crazy people in this forum before reading the same book in two languages at the same time 😅 > [@brandon](#): > > If you’re just worried that it’ll increase edition issues as they won’t have the same amazon page, that’s possibly true. For Amazon.es I don’t think you will have that many issues actually. Also they should have different ISBN numbers, so they can be treated as a different book. ---
**Author:** ![brandon](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/brandon/32/24147_2.png) [@brandon](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/brandon)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/15 "2023-12-29T13:31:46Z")
> [@Megumin](#): > > You have to click on the book to know which one is which, unless it’s filtered by tags. Ah, that’s a good call! I hadn’t considered the potential confusion with duplicate results with the same title. Well, we could always surface an accent tag on the search results if it’s a widespread issue 🙂 Definitely are some complications to watch out for ---
**Author:** ![bibliothecary](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/bibliothecary/32/2723_2.png) [@bibliothecary](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/bibliothecary)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/16 "2023-12-29T13:50:09Z")
> [@Megumin](#): > > I’ve seen crazy people in this forum before reading the same book in two languages at the same time ![](https://do4ryrayvtpwi.cloudfront.net/original/2X/c/c5323a7045742991f7ec752678990d51c08c7fe9.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Megumin](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/megumin/32/1227_2.png) [@Megumin](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/Megumin)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/17 "2023-12-29T13:57:46Z")
But I didn’t mention anyone! ![](https://do4ryrayvtpwi.cloudfront.net/original/2X/8/8a2b0a07127f42070bf107d461b85460c80e05fc.gif "Oh No GIF - Oh No - Discover & Share GIFs") ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/18 "2023-12-29T16:15:33Z")
> [@Megumin](#): > > But I didn’t mention anyone! Yet who else comes to mind, hahaha. Looking forward to someone reading the same book in 3/4 different languages now, just because they can. ---
**Author:** ![HopeWaterfall](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/hopewaterfall/32/6205_2.png) [@HopeWaterfall](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/HopeWaterfall)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/19 "2023-12-29T16:33:30Z")
Once there are more Spanish users, a way to tell Latin American and Castillan Spanish ressources apart would be reviews as well. Although I do know that personally I’ll probably remember to specify if it was Latin American Spanish, and forget to say if it was Castillan Spanish, just because that’s the one I’m more used to. Likewise, if it’s only a matter of accent and vocab is pretty standard, I’m at a lvl where I don’t really care either way so I don’t tend to pay attention to it too much. ---
**Author:** ![eefara](https://deyr2qldo994j.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.learnnatively.com/eefara/32/85_2.png) [@eefara](https://forums.learnnatively.com/u/eefara)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231/20 "2023-12-29T17:28:12Z")
Does anyone have any good resources for differentiating between LA Spanish and Castilian? All my learning in school was for LA, so I’m not I’d know how to differentiate, honestly. Listening is easier to differentiate imo, at least. [Next page](https://forums.learnnatively.com/t/spanish-beta-feedback-from-spanish-users-cefr-update/6231.md?page=2)