# Week 3 | また、同じ夢を見ていた / 또다시 같은 꿈을 꾸었어 | Beginner’s LN club

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Thanks for the answers, folks! 🙂

> **One question right at the beginning (answer to answer)**
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> > [@Galios](#):
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> > > [@Legato](#):
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> > > “When I ignore them despite anything they say
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> > I translated it as “I silently ignore them”. It feels like “に” in “あいつらに” marks the direction of Nanoka’s action (ignoring), and not the direction of their action towards Nanoka.  
> > So, when they finally come to their senses after being flustered by Nanoka’s insult, the only thing they can say is 「びびってんじゃねえ」, and in turn, It makes Nanoka want to sarcastically praise them for finally managing to speak Japanese.
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> With this part I’m rather sure that it’s (rather literally) “despite them saying things at me, I ignore them”:
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> - Nanoka is the omitted subject (and in the case of the following passive, the “experiencer”) of the sentence
> - あいつらに何を言われても: the verb here is passive, and [in passive に marks the one “doing” the action](https://www.tofugu.com/japanese-grammar/verb-passive-form-rareru/#forming-a-passive-sentence), so it describes what the doer (あいつら) does + ても (despite): “despite them saying things at me”
> - 無視している: “I ignore them”

> **Three questions towards the end (answers to answers)**
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> > [@Galios](#):
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> > > [@Legato](#):
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> > > Is that “With a human that’s fine, but if you did something like that in a place like cat society you’d be hated.”?
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> > I think it goes something like this: “If you’re being hated by humans it’s not a big deal, but with that attitude, you’ll be hated even among cats”.
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> I have a bit of trouble trying to get that meaning from the sentence, but it’s my first time seeing ならまだしも, so maybe I’m not quite understanding it yet…
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> > [@暁のルナ](#):
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> > I haven’t read the portion yet, but generally it’s passing by without stopping
> 
> Yeah, that’s the vibe I got from the dictionary definitions too, but that clashes with my feeling of what Nanoka would’ve wanted. I’m curious to read your thoughts on it when you get there.

> [@CatDQ](#):
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> Yeah, reading digitally is a blessing at times. It’s just easier on my eyesight to read a physical book instead, but look ups are a pain.

Praise be for Kindles, then - the best of both worlds, with paper-like reading comfort for the eyes and comfortable lookups. (Admittedly pretty expensive though. On the other hand, “shipping” the ebooks is rather cheap compared to shipping physical books to Germany…)

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