Recently I was: 1. Looking for yuri LNs with audiobooks, 2. Looking through my yuri reads (via tag filtering) to give recommendations to someone. In both cases, there were a number of untagged books. Many of them were things I’ve added (recently and months back). For my personal books, it wasn’t the hugest deal (since I know my reading history) - but for the LNs, it was a trek to identify those.
I don’t mind adding tags to things sometimes, but I’m often not thinking of it, and it gets kind of exhausting to do it for everything… plus sometimes I get stuck on whether/what to tag (which maybe I should start discussions for here? )
So anyway, wondering if there’s a way to handle this, so the burden isn’t on the user adding the material. Or to prompt the user to add tags upon adding/finishing, since it’s probably not going to occur to most users to tag in the first place.
A little related to something I brought up in the product updates thread the other day.
It only really addresses the issue for manga, but users being able to edit the “More Information” section and contribute Anilist links the same way we can add “Where to find” links would reduce friction for users that want to add that information, and it would reduce the amount of verification and manual work Brandon has to do when people send that information in a feedback report. Then once something’s linked to Anilist it can have its tags imported, since they’re mostly 1-to-1 matches with Natively tags.
For tagging non-manga, what dissuades me from doing it is just the sheer number of available tags. Especially since only one tag can be added at a time, it’s a huge hassle to go through the entire list of tags and decide which ones apply. So rather than a general prompt from the site to tag something, maybe a more micro-scale suggestion would be less daunting? Like finish a book, and Natively shows a prompt asking something like “Would you call this book #Fantasy? How relevant do you think #Family Life is to the story?” with random tags presented. Or even a separate page with a tagging tool, where the user gets presented with a tag along with a selection of their finished books, and can select which books that tag applies to.
I agree wrt the More Info section, and have always wondered about that (but figured @brandon has some reason for it). Also fwiw Anilist has some light novels too iirc, though I think their selection may be less consistent there
Yeah, the one tag at a time thing drives me nuts as well (that’s a different product request though I guess). As for the sheer size: even just adding a single tag really helps, imo (esp in my main use case, which is “yuri”).
I guess I’ve tagged enough that I have a sort of short list of things I know I want to tag for. Otherwise it’s guess and check (like figuring out that Elementary School is “Primary School” or that “Primarily Adult Cast” needs “Pri” as the prompt, not “Adu”)
That’s interesting… but also unless implemented well, would probly be pretty laughable and not so effective, given the number of tags.
That’s interesting… but considering the ever-growing size of my finished books list, that particular implementation sounds very unappealing… maybe if it was limited to books w/ 0 tags?
Actually I think it would be great to just have an “Untagged” or even “few tags” filter (say 5 or less), cuz then at least I could pick through those, and tag things I’m familiar with. But as it stands now, I have no good way to determine what series are missing tags. It doesn’t fully solve the problem, but it could at least help reduce it
I agree, the success rate of actually getting anything accurately tagged from a tool like that would probably be pretty low But at least it would be less scary for me than the full tag list.
Or since you mentioned having particular tags that are important to you, maybe users could make a list of their favourite tags, and only those ones are prompted when finishing a book instead of a random probably-irrelevant tag.
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But at least it would be less scary for me than the full tag list.
