If there is, this definition will be different for different countries.
Right, some of which are exact opposites of each other. I’m fine if it’s “use your best judgement” - just curious.
I would also want to know if “adult content” only covers sex or if it includes violence/gore (I realize people tend to be more concerned with sex and there’s probably way more sexualized covers on Natively than gorey ones, but violence is generally included in age ratings), and if so, what would be considered examples of “adult” violence vs not.
I‘d think violence/gore is more of a European concern, while sex is more of a US concern.
Edit: E.g. in Germany currently there are about 100 movies banned for “Depictions of violence“ by some court, but just 4 for pornographic reasons. Here is a list: List of films banned in Germany - Wikipedia
Trying to police this gets into some super fun gray/censorship areas and can get dicey with so many different countries/rules/opinions/feelings/etc…
suggest trying to keep it simple…
if the book is R18 on amazon/bw/etc… for whatever the reason then tag it as adult (if not already) Then any books tagged adult (regardless of the cover get blurred) unless you turn that option off in your own dashboard/settings.
Then possibly for those that are worried about certain topics give an option in the users dashboard/settings to possibly blur/hide certain tags that may or may not be adult but the user can decide for themselves without trying to navigate a mess of personal feelings.
If a book pops up that isn’t R18 on bw/amazon/etc… but it does have certain tags/topics it shouldn’t necessarily be auto censored for all but the user that doesn’t want to see those options, if flipping on those tags they want to personally blur/hide will kind of kill 2 birds…
Realize of course not everything is tagged necessarily so it won’t be perfect but users could add tags they know are real (sure there could be abuse but overall probably not too big a deal) and anything that isn’t tagged adult could be tagged or request the librarians to update.
some random thoughts… personally books are books
if there is something I’m not interested in I’ll just move on
You’re right on the potential complications.
Unfortunately, Amazon does R18 on practically nothing so it’s not a good judge. Bookwalker is better, but Japanese only. I think we’ll have to take it on ourselves via tagging & librarian overrides.
There are two major priorities:
- Hiding things from browse that make people uncomfortable. This has much more to do with the cover than the actual content and I think it’s less controversial to tag ‘suggestive covers’.. it’ll be pretty clear. You could make the case that we need to include violent covers in our handling rather than just ‘suggestive’.. but extremely violent covers are much less prevalent than suggestive ones and I think are more complicated to handle. Let’s focus on ‘suggestive covers’ first.
- Hiding true adult content from being recommended / surfaced to people who don’t want it. I think we focus only on extreme violence & unequivacle pornography / lots of sex.
I think a lot of complication comes around ecchi. Is that adult content? How much ecchi is too much ecchi? But I don’t think that issue becomes as pressing if we tag suggestive covers. People are probably fine with randomly navigating to an ecchi book that looks non-suggestive and then reading the tags / reviews and realizing it’s probably too ecchi for them. We just need to hide the super sexy covers for books which technically aren’t adult content.
And I completely agree with having user settings for triggers. If someone doesn’t want to see any ecchi, allow setting a trigger ‘ecchi’ tag in their user settings would be nice. Not a part of this first iteration though. Baby steps ![]()
I think this would make the most sense. With a broad range for what a suggestive cover is (and maybe an option to see the cover anyway if we click on it or something like that), that way it’ll suit more people. And once that system is established, there could be a violent/gore cover option as well? I tend to mind that less, but the really gore covers are still not great to show depending on where I am ![]()
Jumping in really quickly because I haven’t had time to think about It properly, but what @HopeWaterfall said makes me think maybe a more generic “Safe for Work” would be an easier way to word It? Users can opt in or out, and it covers both sexual, suggestive, and gore covers.
I like this. I know we’ve had confusion in the past with some users going, “what is adult content?” because that euphemism isn’t universally used.
Description of your request or bug report:
Requesting to have a special Adult/R-18 tag for such content.
This should make those items not surface for people that have disabled it in settings and/or display a warning, like Amazon does, to confirm if you are an adult.
I’m not sure if this information can be scrapped from Amazon, or the R-18 prompt is something only displayed to the end user and not available in the API.
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…and maybe also find some resource to add them for movies and TV programs; so far I added the tags: PG12 and R15+.
Until now, R18+ contents wasn’t interesting enough to watch it to the end, as horror movies that fall in that category e.g. in Germany are just R15+ in Japan.
I’ll be blunt, there’s a lot of ecchi crap i want to read and log but i don’t necessarily want it to clog up other people’s feeds. Supported
Considering we have tags now, this seems like it should be relatively easy to implement?
Just wanted to bump this, bc two of my recent books have covers with partial nudity that I decided to hide, out of consideration for ppl who might not want that to pop up on their feed (particularly if they’re at work or something)
I don’t think that’s really ideal though, since it puts the onus on the reader, and hides it from people who would like to see it
but this will probably just be R15+ (because nudity is just ‘partial’), so will not fall under this request, at least not in its strict sense.
I think this request is basing on content and not book cover per se anyway?
Even if those specific titles might not be covered, I still think it’s an important/useful functionality for the site to have. If there’s a setting to filter out R18+, it seems like including a toggle for R15+ would fit under the same product request.
OK, then we could add a filter for PG12 contents as well, as their might be parents who want to find stuff that they can let their children watch without qualms.
Edit: I changed the title.
This request isn’t based on the covers.
However just to chime in on this part though, I’d be happy if there was an option to blur covers with nudity in addition to a separate setting for display of R18 content in general. I’m on here almost exclusively while I’m at work.
I merged duplicates but I forgot to check the box to respect the timeline, so apologies for the noise.
I just wanted to suggest something similar regarding the wording “suggestive cover”. If I’d come across this phrase randomly without context, I would probably not understand what is meant because I’m not a native speaker (and my head just goes “what does it suggest?”
), and chances are other users might not understand either. So I’m all for formulating this straightforwardly, like “Cover shows R18+ imagery” or “Cover shows sexual / violent imagery” or somesuch.
I think I like ‘NSFW Cover’ for the cover tag. As for content, do we like ‘NSFW Content’ ? Or simply ‘NSFW’ ? I would suspect that NSFW may lead to more conservative tagging (too much content falling under the filter).. rendering it unusable for folks who just want to filter out extreme things like pornography.
But then, maybe if we had good tags for pornography, those folks could turn off the adult filter and have an explicit tag filter for pornography?
It’s probably better to be overly aggressive on filtering than not
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After some thought, I think I’m liking ‘NSFW Content’ and ‘NSFW Cover’. What are our thoughts on this?