Description of your request or bug report:
Currently adult content is mixed in with all other content. I suspect some people will prefer to filter it out.
As a note, some series are noted as being adult by TMDB while others (which clearly are) are not.
Example of a movie tagged R18 by TMDB: Call Boy (2018) — The Movie Database (TMDB)
Example of a clearly R18 show not tagged by TMDB: Mosaic Japan (TV Series 2014) — The Movie Database (TMDB)
Using TMDB for initial filtering will probably help, but allowing for user feedback to bucket something into that category will likewise be helpful.
I like browsing Natively but the feed of users statuses is quite risque sometimes. It’d be nice to have titles get labeled and a setting that lets you adjust what you’re okay with seeing. So like I might be okay with suggestive content, but straight up sexual content is blocked or censored when it displays on my feed.
A cool idea would be you can click on it to unblock it temporarily, but it should automatically blur or block the text.
That sounds like a good feature (I kinda remember someone making a similar request before, I think, but I’m not sure).
That being said, that type of cover is actually forbidden on Natively for now. I guess it could be allowed assuming the feature you describe is implemented, but for now it’s a no go. If you see anything like that, you should actually use the feedback button to report it
I would also really love to see this implemented. It seems at the very least, it should be easy to apply a css blur to covers, now that we have the Adult tag (and others?)
Of course the weakness there is that it relies on things being tagged, which may not always actually happen
It is! It was asked before, leading to this answer (somehow the question in not in the preview, but whatever):
The main issue is that it’s not automatically handled. I had to report a cover before.
Edit: to be clear, it is the responsibility (?) of the person adding the content to mention a problem with the cover, but I can understand people not knowing about that.
Edit2: Huh, I tried to check one of the covers that was previously censored, and it’s not anymore? I wonder if it’s because of the sync functionality that reinstated the original cover. (I’m thinking of 田中~年齢イコール彼女いない歴の魔法使い~ | L30??)
Is it? That’s news to me. The add a book form doesn’t say anything about it. Don’t the admins (I assume mostly @brandon) see the covers before approving (or not) anyway? I’d imagine they’d be a much better judge of what shouldn’t be displayed than I would. What should the note even say? “Questionable cover”?
(I’m happy to add a note when I add things, if that’s helpful)
What did censored covers look like? I don’t think I’ve ever seen that b4
Yes. It’s not mentioned anywhere on the page or anything, it’s just something that was mentioned during discussions on the forum. You can put a note in the box at the bottom when you upload. They are supposed to check, though, but
Something like that, I guess.
I don’t remember exactly, but I think it was grayed out.
In full agreement about this. There are a lot of ecchi covers that I would rather not be popping up while I’m at work. I work in a middle school now, but I used to work in elementary, and the amount of those that would absolutely still be NSFW for me was high.
I mentioned this before and yeah, I saw a lot of suggestive covers pop up recently as well. Problem is, it’s not always adult content, but also ecchi?
Something like
would definitely make me uncomfortable in public
And the school girls hentai that I complained about back then is also still here, along with tons of other books in the hentai category, so I wonder how these book covers are supposed to be not allowed?
I wish that when I block users that their activity would be hidden in the feed as well, but it’s not working that way currently.
Edit: I would be completely fine if there were 2 settings in profile, one for blur adult content covers and one for blur ecchi content covers. I would be totally ok with some non-ecchi looking covers getting caught up in this as well, if it means I can finally browse the learnnatively feed in the subway
Edit2: And as I mentioned in my other post, I feel like the school girls hentai might be illegal where I live, but I don’t wanna start researching and googling laws around that and even less open the manga itself to check, but just that it makes me think it might be illegal content is enough to maybe reconsider making users able to straight up block/hide content.
I mean, supposedly they aren’t allowed. Actually, I remember you mentioning that, and I thought (incorrectly, apparently) that something was done about it. I guess I misremembered?
I mean it’s not like much of value is lost anyway…
Gotta love the fact that, according to that link, associations of manga publishers shot down the bill supposed to ban it in Japan because of “freedom of expression”.
To me, it would be a feature to immediately see which content is ecchi (through the blur on the cover) if the cover itself doesn’t show it outright, because there is a very small chance I would’ve been interested in those anyway.
General development on Natively seems to have slowed down, so I wonder if a tamper monkey script to blur all images in the feed might be a quicker fix for people who need this now? Although I’ve never used tampermonkey on mobile it looks like it’s supported on both Android and iOS.
TBH we’re still not really good about adult stuff since we don’t have proper adult handling… one day…
We have a rule around no full nudity on the cover, but beyond that we allow most things. We really do appreciate though if you at least Tag it adult! Then in the future when we get adult handling we can backfill
Just as an update, I am now actively working on this!
I’m still thinking through the best approach with regards to suggestive covers / ecchi. The priority is to default folks into no adult content for discovery - activity feeds & searches. Text searches would of course have to indicate if there are hidden adult content results. I’m less concerned around blocking people if they go directly to a book / movie / tv page url.. eventually when we redo that page, we could do a fancy blurred ui.
Let’s talk suggestive covers though.. the items which aren’t adult content. I think i’d prefer to do a hard filter rather than a fancy blurred image. Like content tagged with a ‘suggestive cover’ tag automatically gets filtered. Then, in your settings, you’d have options to specify if you want only adult content filtered, suggestive content or both (default). In general, I think that we should have admin managed overrides for marking adult content / suggestive covers.. but if there is no override, default to looking at user tags.
Does that feel right?
PS: @Megumin I think we have some duplicate requests for this - link, link… maybe more?
Great to hear, and I think you’ve got a good approach.
Given how many untagged items there are, it might be good to include some text about “we rely on user tags for identifying adult content or suggestive covers. If you see something that should be marked, please send us feedback” or something.
Even if we covered all the current items on the site, users may not know the contents of new items they add - and thus not mark books/videos with adult content.
As suggestive covers go, would it make sense to add a “Suggestive Cover?” checkbox to the Add Book/Video forms?
Basically my general worry is content (particularly suggestive covers) slipping through
As an aside, is there a set (Edit: Natively-specific) definition of what constitutes adult content? Or is it basically relying on subjective impression? For example: I would not tag “fade to black” scenes as adult content, but someone else might. And there may be other grey areas. Don’t necessarily have to go into this now, if you just want to keep it limited to the functionality
