Description of your request or bug report: As of right now, if you try to enter that you just read one page or part of page, the system returns an error. To get around it, you must incorrectly enter two pages, which leads to inaccuracy. Please make it so we can enter a page or less. Thanks!
Hope youāll forgive my sticking my nose in here, but the discussion in the other thread with @brandon left me a little confused and wondering if you were talking past each other, and Iām curious about what exactly the missing feature here is. Of these scenarios, which ones are you asking for?
I want to record that I read a single page, and itās the single page immediately after the last one I read (eg I already read pages 1-26 and today I want to record just page 27)
I want to record that I read a single page from the middle of the book even though I havenāt read up to that yet (eg page 26 is the first ever page I read in the book, or I read 1-10 earlier but now I skip forward and read page 50)
I generically want to record reading of random sections in the book, eg I read pages 25-40 and 120-130
I read pages 1-25 earlier, and now I want to record that I read just half of page 26
I read pages 1-25 earlier, and now I want to record that I skipped ahead and read just half of page 50
At least, it sounded to me like @brandon was saying the system restriction is about recording reading progress in non-consecutive parts of the book (i.e. items 2, 3, 5 on the list donāt work, but 1 does), but this request seems like itās about single page updates of any kind (i.e. items 1 and 3) and half-page updates (4, 5) and the non-consecutive part doesnāt matter? (I would have thought that 1 works already, but havenāt tested itā¦)
Primarily, Iād like to see 1 implemented, but since that doesnāt already work, 4/5 seem like theyād also be possible if 1 is fixed. Since Iām reading a book that has about 1 entry per day/page, Iād like to be able to record my progress. As of right now, you canāt enter āRead page 30.ā Youād have to say āRead from page 29 to 30ā or āRead from page 30 to 31ā
3 seems to already work. Real life case usage- Iāve read JoJo Part 5 already, but Iām currently reading Part 4 now. Part 5 starts about halfway through volume 47.
My impression is that this is just how Natively displays one page updates, in the same way a 10 page update displays as āfrom page 20 to 30ā (in other words, āfrom X to Yā means āread (Y-X) pagesā). This is clearest in the first update of a book, which starts on the nonexistent āpage zeroā. I agree itās pretty confusing, though, and most obviously odd when you read exactly one page at a time. Maybe thereās a better way to show this in the UI.
As @pm215 mentioned, you can do 1 page updates just fine, but itās very confusing how it asks you where you started and when you finish, and afterwards how itās displayed to the user.
Sometimes I have to double think if what it wants from me is the last page I read, or the first page I have to read next.
Iāve always read it as āthe last page I ended onā. Book page updates have never confused me, while video timestamp updates always have, for whatever reason.
So just to clarify: if you finish up a paragraph that coincidentally also ends a page, or a chapter (maybe one with a blank page or so after it, even!), you input the page you last read?
Yep. So if I read through page 59, flip the page, see page 60 is blank, then flip another page and see chapter three starts on page 61, I put page 60 as my updated page total.
And for what itās worth, if I stop partway through a page, I donāt count that page as having been read. So if I get to page 4, read halfway through and decide Iām done, I update my page count to page 3.
I do try to avoid stopping partway through a page, though; if I read a little bit more, then my numbers go up even higher.
Edit: Looking back at the wording on the page update widget, I think it was more of an accident/assumption that I landed on that system, though. I probably read the update verbiage, assumed one thing, then never sat down to think it through. Itās not really clear what page itās technically asking for. Now that Iām re-reading it, Iād be tempted to say itās technically more correct to input the current page youāre reading. So with my first example, I should be putting 61 instead of 60ā¦
I disagree. If 1 pages or 2 pages look exactly the same in entry, then itās not a good solution. If I read 2 pages, say 13-14, then ok, I enter start 13 and end 14. If I read page 14 only, then I put ??? The entries will appear the same, even though theyāre not.
If you get a homework assignment from a teacher, like say āDo all the exercises on pages 12-14.ā Youāre supposed to do the ones on page 12 as well. Similarly, āRead pages 26-38ā doesnāt mean you should start on 27.
So, the system does treat the ācurrent pageā as the page youāve āfinishedā⦠but I agree the current system could be specified clearer, in addition to @DIO-Berryās suggestion of allowing single pages.
More chat on Current Page
Perhaps just changing the label āCurrent Pageā to āFinished Pageā would solve that issue, but the āCurrent Pageā parlance is pretty common it seems. I think that most trackers kinda treat this the same as I do⦠yeah people might put the page that theyāre currently on, rather than just finished, but it doesnāt matter that much in the end. Itās just an off-by-one error in the session data. If you finish the book, the page data will be correct.
Certainly open to opinions on this though. The reason itās currently configured as āFinished Pageā is so that once you finish the book, then the āCurrent Pageā can equal the āTotal Pagesā of the book⦠which is nice for data handling.
Edit:
I think @Naphthalene was just saying there are ways to currently do it in the system, which is correct. But yes, definitely confusing, which is why this request is a thing
While itās nice to be heard and understood now, it seems even if there are other people who took āpage startedā to literally mean page started, no one else is bothered enough by this to want it changed.
No real resolution here. I think at least we should have better guidelines around āCurrent Pageā. Perhaps we just change this ticket to āClearer Current Page Handlingā? And simply specify it indicates āpages finishedā?