Maybe just adding a decimal to the percentage would make me happy, since rounded percentages feel really imprecise.
Maybe another problem here is that 0% is usually not identical with āstart of page oneā.
Also digital versions (where percentage is exclusively used) and physical version of books may have different number of images.
I think the āprogress updateā does accept decimals when adding percentages.
But when adding a reading session in the ādata managerā tab, you can only add pages and canāt even choose percentages, so thereās some discrepancies there⦠I never know where to add my reading sessions since I want to add percentages in decimals, but I also want to add the date. Thereās no single place to do that currently
Not only that; they also have different amounts of whitespace and such, from dialogue as well as from chapter breaks. So there is no perfect match between the percentage of a paperback version and a digital version anyway.
I think it would also be nice to be able to manually add the character count of a book. I used to exclusively use page numbers and the page number I put in was several points off from the percentage I was into the epub file.
For manga though Iām just happy to be able to manually change the total number of pages. It doesnāt bother me that much if the percentage is off.
Yes. I would love that. Add your own āmy ebook has 1161 pages with my current device settingsā and then just enter the page youāre on.
That would remove the step of āokay Iām on page 167 of 1161 in my ebook, what percentage would that be?ā that I have to perform for every single reading session I want to enter into natively.
Basically thatās what I am thinking about right now, let the user say what their unit of measurement is and what their maximum is, and then that would work for ebook pages, kindle locations, character counts, even percent, tankobon vs bunkobon or even the book pages themselves.
Do yāall think people would want to change the counting method in between? I canāt really see a need for that, so I would fix it once itās specified, but please let me know if you see good reasons.
I donāt think they meant actual pages. Some ebooks in the kindle app donāt actually show what page youāre on. They give you random sets of numbers to show your progress. It could be a 100 page book and theyāll give you place 350 of 1140 or something stupid. In theory though it should work the same way.
Your comment also made me realize that maybe Iām just a fool and I couldāve been putting the character count, instead of the actual page number, the whole time. Just so we all know, it doesnāt work. The number is too high apparently.
Interesting, Iāve never read a proper ebook so I didnāt know they worked that way. Is the total for those random page numbers at least consistent, or does it change as you go? Iām not sure how Natively would be able to track where you are if Kindle itself is just making numbers up lol
They only work that way if that page numbers werenāt inputted by the publisher for the ebook I think. Iāve had several books in a series show me actual page numbers at the bottom and then one book in the series did that nonsense where it just looks like they chose a random number for the amount of pages.
The end number stays the same. The amount the progress number goes up from page to page though might not be. Iāve never looked that closely. I just know I hate it so I go by percentage for those books so I donāt have to think about it. ![]()
EDIT: It looks like this. This book has 145 pages and is over 26k characters. WHAT ARE THESE NUMBERS?!
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26k divided by 1650 is about 16 characters per ebook page⦠is it counting sentences or paragraph breaks maybe?
Well, itās not counting sentences, lines, or paragraph breaks. Between the first and second pages of chapter 1 it jumps from 53 to 71. The closest number I can get to with any of those is 63. The first page of the table of contents (which has every chapter listed except ONE) is 28 and the very next page (with a single line of text on it) is 49. It doesnāt count pages with pictures though so thereās that.
I swear itās just a bunch of random made up numbers. ![]()
something to consider is that
ā¦using char for page numbers is your pages read will be wildly off⦠stats for pages read etcā¦
typically ereaders so give you a percentage (if you turn it on)⦠I use ttsu and the % is there and thatās what I useā¦with fractions ⦠works fine
Yes, that would work.
epub files are just a file with the text of the book inside. And since you can change the character size, line spacing etc on most ebook readers, the number of āebook pagesā will depend on those settings and also on the screen size of the device youāre reading on.
(I donāt know how kindle locations work though.)
The reason I donāt want to change the actual page numbers on Natively to ebook pages, is because I still would like comparable stats and reading speeds across books. So I donāt want Natively to think that I read 100 actual paperback pages in an hour.
Bookwalker doesnāt give you a percentage, although I can obviously calculate the percentages myself if the reader shows me Iām on āpageā 824/2080. But putting the page into Natively would be convenient for me.
Ok great
On it!
I think they are markers in the text, so they should work the same as character or word counts, but of course they are only available on Kindle. But the principle is the same as all others: we have a maximum number and intermediate numbers, and so we can transform to real pages just like everything else.
Yes, but it still equates this with pages and I wouldnāt want it to do that. Iād love to know, based on the percentage I set it to, how many characters Iāve read, not how many pages. Which is a feature that doesnāt exist right now.
Exactly. Using page numbers with chapter books doesnāt mean much in terms of actual data to me. Like sure I could say I read 20 pages or xyz percentage of the book, but how much actually is that? A character count is much more accurate for that specifically. Not that Iāll boohoo if thatās never a feature available on the site. Itās not that big of a deal. Iām just saying.

