My Japanese Reading and studying Experiences - CatDQ

Mine are the squares units from Argos. It’s the 4x4 squares unit I have my japanese books on but I’m currently only using 6 of the squares. They are quite tall because I can fit the large movie picture books of Howl’s Moving Castle and Spirited away on the upright as well as the two huge children’s encyclopaedias I have in Japanese as well.

Yeah, I’m currently fighting that urge since I could free up another 2 Squares as well but my bank balance wouldn’t like the bill if I continue buying books so outrageously atm :rofl:

If I did that, I’d have no space for me in the house never mind all the books I’d buy :rofl:

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A truer word has never been spoken! :books: :books: :books: :rofl:

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I’m saying just enough to fill in whatever extra space you clear. But fair

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I don’t do things like that by halfs :rofl:

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2024/05/10:

TLDR: ranting and musings about lack of study, lack of motivation and lack of reading. And I bought 2 new books. :rofl:

Been a while since I’ve posted because it’s been a while since I could focus on reading anything or study anything, though I have still kept up with my language exchange, weekly lesson and my reviews for wanikani (felt aince I paid for the lifetime sub, I may as well still use it even if it’s just for some extra practice since I rarely actually learn from it unless I’m using it irl too).

Managed to find a few book shops that sell Japanese second hand books in Edinburgh when I visited. There wasn’t a lot but there was a few so I bought 2 books. One about a boxer (ring boxing, not the dog :joy:) and the other is a dual language book about an organ (think piano thing, not body organs lol).

I think that brings my books now to a round number of 450. I probably have more books in Japanese than all the book shops in Scotland put together :joy:

Motivation has been a struggle recently and I think the only way to get around it is to go back to my original study plan of a chapter a week and then use the extra time for reading though finding something at my level may be a bit of hit and miss atm. Natively level 17-18 is about my limit and the graded readers are getting boring.

I don’t know what I need to do to improve while still keeping motivated except sheer determination. I feel stuck in a cycle but I think the most improvement I had in the shortest space of time was back when I used the Tadoku books and just read those extensively for 2 days straight working up the levels and trying to understand what I could. I think I need that kind of immersion again which is difficult when there are others around you that only speak and use English.

Maybe I just need to take a few hours out of each non-work day and immerse while reading just working through my books inferring what I can from context and just come back to it in a few months and see if there is any improvement :thinking:

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I feel like there’s a ton of level 19 manga that you could maybe struggle through a few and then unlock all of that content! I know there are previous WK book clubs for a lot of them too that would already have vocab lists and discussion about. There are some not awful kids books that unlock at 20-23, and some slice of life around there too. You’re so close to having so much to read that you won’t know what to choose!

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Yeah, I’ve a lot of books and manga from Lv 20 upwards, the lower level stuff is what I don’t have yet since I wasn’t buying stuff methodically like I should have :sweat_smile:

I probably should just try and muddle through some of the higher level stuff but I don’t have the motivation to atm. Slice of life stuff I might be able to do higher levels since I managed with 2 and a half of the 5 short stories in Zoo which I think is Lv 30.

I should probably focus on buying lower level stuff to help me bridge that gap though :joy:

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As someone who spent way too long muddling and not making much progress, I recommend reading a series or two closer to your level. I think you’ll be surprised how quickly you make progress.

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That might work but closest series I have would be Demon Slayer at Lv23. I could try to muddle through it but I’d probably have a fair number of look ups.

It’s definitely a start though, thanks :blush:

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But otoh you already successfully read through stuff in the 20ies, like the later flying witch mangas, which are actually more difficult than the earlier ones, that determine the general grading. So I wouldn‘t be that pessimistic about being able to read at that level.

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The earlier Flying Witch I understood more of but the later ones I wasn’t understanding much.:sweat_smile: I was also reading them extensively because I was reading them between calls at work where I’m not allowed my phone so can’t dictionary check when needed. The only books I’ve been able to read and understand extensively is the ミラーさん novels because with those I have most of the words from みんなの日本語. I do plan to re-read the Flying Witch manga but not atm.

Edit: apologies if this came across kind of cold originally. I meant it to come across differently and now I’m over thinking it :sweat_smile:

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Flying witch is a weird series because the first few volumes are relatively easy but once Makoto starts interacting more with other witches the difficulty starts spiking significantly

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There was that but I think my current issues with focus and studying didn’t help. I’m trying to rectify that and seeing if I can pull my motivation and resilience back to what it was before the start of last year :sweat_smile:

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2024/05/20:

TL:DR - I’ve tried to do something in Japanese every few days, studying is sporadic and I’m trying to take a day at a time to get myself out of this mental burnout I’m in.

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Updates are becoming a bit sporadic for me, kinda like my studying habits :sweat_smile:

Since the last update, I’ve kept up with my weekly language exchange, I haven’t had any lessons (tutor was ill for one and I was ill for the other) but do have another one due tomorrow, and I’ve kept up with my slow progress on Wanikani reviews (I was previously at Lv13 but dropped back down around January/ February time and I’m now slowly building my way back up as a way to do something in Japanese every day even if I’m not in the right mindset for studying) and I have tried to read every so often if I can’t do it daily. I’ve also been going back through Paul Noble’s Japanese course so I’ve been trying to speak a little every few days as well.

I’m now back at work 4 days from this week (having been off ill since I went back in March) so I’m hoping that I can get some more reading done in breaks etc like before which should get me back into a better place with studying.

I kinda want to just batter in to one of the higher level books like I did the other year with キノの旅 and Zoo but I think doing that escalated my burn out, especially when I didn’t enjoy my time reading some of the stories in Zoo. I could go back and re-read them but I feel I need some lower level more comprehensible books under my belt first.

Trying to take a day at a time so today will be more of Paul Noble’s course since I only have about 2 hours left before starting the next one, and reading the last story in the “Let’s read Japanese” Lv1 book I’m on. I’ll do that then see where it goes.

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2024/05/27:

TL:DR: getting back to so sense of normality, still working on all skills instead of focusing just on one. I have a new found love of kanji and still hate vocab learning through textbooks :joy: just taking it a day at a time.

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So I feel like I’m starting to get back into the swing of things though it is still early days. I haven’t been reading at work since I’ve been on half days with little to no breaks but this week is back to normal full time (even though the half days left me exhausted or jittery).

I’ve managed to do a bit of reading or some of Shin Kanzen Master N4 books (completed the Kanji one and now continuing with the vocabulary one) every day. I do think that Natively Lv 18 is the sweet spot for me learning through reading at the moment. Currently working through the “Let’s read Japanese” series and although book 4 shows as Lv13?, it’s probably around Lv16 /Lv 17. I can read most of it with one 1-2 look ups max per page (usually the same words that’s been used in that story or another in the same set).

The stories can be weird even when they aren’t folk lore ones and they have been changed to suit the level they are supposed to be but they do follow the original mostly, even if it’s easier language. I’m not hating them but they’re not exactly gripping either. I’m working through them for translation practice and to see how much I can understand naturally and through context before having to look stuff up. They have been short enough that even though they aren’t that great, it’s not been a mega chore to read them.

I’m half way almost, through this book then I’ve one more book after this with higher level stories in it before I’ll be looking to see what my next steps will be. I’m also considering doing the N3 Shin Kanzen Master kanji book since I seem to have a new found interest in kanji stroke order, correct writing and recognition though I’m not enjoying the vocabulary book from the same set (N4 level). I just seem to abhor learning vocab through trying to memorise them instead of naturally through reading.

I’m still doing my weekly language exchanges, those haven’t ever stopped, and I’m still doing my weekly conversations with my tutor though I’ve been struggling with what to talk about (nothing new there). She did recommend 2 books recently, one her father is reading and one she is reading so bought those thinking I could try reading and talking about that but I’m still not quite sure where to start with it.

I need more listening practice too so re-started listening to また、同じ夢を見ていた。I actually found there was a lot more in the first chapter that I understood this time even though not much has changed since I last tried to reading and listening to it.

For speaking outside of my language exchanges and tutor lessons, I have continued doing Paul Noble’s course - Next steps in Japanese. I’ve done this because it is helping me to string sentences together and also, somehow, it is helping me to break down longer sentences too. I kind of want another course after this but I don’t think I’ll find one that works the same way as this isn’t your usual wrote memorisation method. He gets you to build sentences from individuals words and smaller blocks that you have already learned then asks you to translate from English. After a short pause, you hear a native Japanese speaker repeat it in Japanese. I haven’t come across another course like it. It’s also similar to what one of my Japanese language exchange friends does to help me with Japanese and that method seems to be helping me to work things out.

For the moment, I’m going to continue doing what I’m doing and see how things go, just taking it a day at a time and then once I’m back in a decent space, I’ll look at a more structured routine again if need be.

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2024/06/04:

TL:DR - Read a harrowing story in the last graded reader of the Let’s read Japanese series, read a few other lower level books and now trying to figure out if it’s my vocab level or grammar level that’# making things so difficult


I ended up finishing “Let’s read Japanese” book 4 and moved on to the last book in that series which turned out to be quite a bit more difficult than expected, especially the final story, which was a non-fiction first hand account of an incident shortly after the war. I was not prepared for the depth of description in it, nor the content of the story (not that I found it triggering, but I did find it difficult to read on an emotional level as well as from a vocabulary level). The content was something I was unprepared for in the pages of a graded reader though I have a few books on my shelf that do contain similar subject matter both in English and in Japanese. It contrasted quite deeply with the other three lighter hearted stories in the last graded reader of that series.

After that, I decided to take an easier book next instead of my original choice of ひと (originally recommended by my tutor as the language used should be simple enough for me to understand and then discuss in lessons), so I ended up reading にゃんにゃん探偵団 and にゃんにゃん探偵団おひるね which I’m still in the process of reading through the first case. Although only my second read through of にゃんにゃん探偵団 (book 1), I did notice a significant increase in understanding the sentences and only really used look ups to check understanding was correct or for some of the vocabulary I was a little unsure of. Most of it I was managing to figure out before I looked it up and then with にゃんにゃん探偵団おひるね I’ve started to notice words I already know from other sources are popping up even if the words are a little obscure.

I feel like I am finally starting to get back to where I’ve been trying to since about this time last year. I’ve noticed that natively level 18 ish is about my comfort zone at the moment so I’ve a few other Lv 18 books I can read from my shelf before trying to tackle more difficult books again, though I am gong to attempt ひと purely for trying to discuss in my lessons if I can, so that I can work on increasing my speaking skills and trying to get away from the basic language I tend to use when speaking.

I haven’t “study-studied” this week but I am due to pick it up again tomorrow though I’m in two minds about picking up the N4 新完全マスター grammar book to work through instead of the vocabulary book at this time, due to the block I’ve hit with the vocabulary book since the other week. I am starting to think that my grammar level is higher than my vocabulary level (which is partly why I want to try the grammar book to see if I find it easier). If so, it would explain why I feel like I’ve hit a wall and finding it so hard to progress since vocabulary is most difficult for me to memorize without SRS and yet I only seem to remember it when I see it in context several times and not when studying through SRS like Anki.

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I don’t know if I’ve mentioned this before, but I tend to find I only really find the SRS effective for words I already encounter multiple times (or impactfully) inside wide reading, and even then it’s more about just keeping the word I’ve already seen ‘front of mind’ after already having at least one situation where I understand the context.

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Same here mostly

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I have tried the SRS flashcards on JPDB for Kino no Tabi and made a set for Zoo book 1 when I was going to be reading that but even then it didn’t stick from the flashcards. :sweat_smile: it seems to only stick when I’m getting the words repeated through what I’m reading even without flashcards.

I do remember having similar issues with English and vocabulary tests in Primary school. I just thought it was because I got bored easily but maybe it’s not.

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Adding this here as I wasn’t sure where else to add it:

I found a site that has reading/ listening articles based on JLPT level but also includes furigana and a JLPT N6 for brand new beginners. It’s kind of like tadoku free books and seems to have articles up to N1 level.

For anyone that can’t use plug-ins for translation, if your device has the ability to select words/ sentences then you can translate that way or copy and translate elsewhere.

I just thought it was kind of cool and does have advanced level content as well as easier stuff. It’s also voiced by a native speaker from what I can tell and it isn’t a robot voice though he does speak slowly in the earlier/ lower level articles.

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