September Listening Challenge 👂

Day 10:

33m of “Spoken Japanese made simple” audiobook, just the Japanese sections.

53m total = 2 episodes of Bee and Puppycat (wth did I watch :joy:) that is one weird show but the language was mostly simple enough from what I could understand (subs don’t match the spoken language though so not sure about what I didn’t understand).

40m of Japanese with Hikari (alphabet & pronunciation video)

25m of short listening comprehension exercise videos (24 videos, Japanese pod 101 absolute beginner level =33m but some of each was in English)

32m of short listening comprehension exercise videos (19 videos, Japanese pod 101 beginner level = 39m but some of each was in English)

Total for today = 3h & 3m

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I absolutely love that show :joy:
It’s so delightfully weird! I might need to go rewatch it in Japanese now!!

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I’ve never watched it before even in English so this was completely unexpected :joy: Good fun though. Just a pity I only seem to have one season of it on UK Netflix

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I think there’s only the one season?
It was a web animation and then it got picked up by Netflix and they redid the beginning completed the story line. I’m pretty sure that’s it?

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Ah ok, Natively shows 3 seasons (3rd is actually just a special episode) but only the second season shows on Netflix UK. I think the one marked as 1st season is actually just shorts so not a proper season but I didn’t notice that the first time :joy:

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Yeah what it’s marking as season 1 is this:

Hopefully that’s available in the UK…

It mostly gets retold in “season 2”, so I think all that you’re missing are some slice of life adventures.
I didn’t realize there was a special! Now I’m gonna have to go watch it. :heart:

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Awesome, thank you :blush: I’ll watch this tomorrow.
I wonder if there’s a Japanese voice over version I can watch afterwards.

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Did 1h yesterday as well.

Sadly I didn’t recover as much as I wanted. So I’m a bit under the objective if you count 1h per day in total.

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Only 48 mins today: an episode of ワカコ酒, and a little bit of 放課後ミステリクラブ and 京都寺町三条のホームズ. I’d say I didn’t know what happened except I know exactly what happened: a bunch of manga I want to read are temporarily free and I spent most of the afternoon reading manga :sweat_smile:

Tomorrow we need to drive to go to do some stuff in the US so I’m not sure I’m gonna get much done tomorrow either. Luckily I’m a bit ahead of my goal so I can slack for a couple
of days.

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Today’s ramble:

Bee and Puppycat - 3 episodes - 1.7 hours.
What a weird show. Was a bit hard to follow at first but once I picked up on repeated words like “landlord”, it got easier.

The Kamogawa Food Detectives - 19% - 0.5 hours

Today’s total: 2.2 hours

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Day 11:

45 minutes of Japanese pod 101 intermediate listening comprehension questions, 16 videos.

Today was tough, a lot of stuff going on in training at work and I’m still recovering so after that exhausting day, I didn’t get much reading or listening time so chose to focus more on listening today.

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2h Yesterday and finished 本好きの下剋上~司書になるためには手段を選んでいられません~第二部「神殿の巫女見習い2」 | L31

When I wake up in the morning, I’ll see if I go with the next volume or something new.
Depending on this poll


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Hello!:wave:t2: I finished 3 hours of listening with a combo of audiobooks and YouTube in the last two days, and 1 hour of shadowing.

For the past two days when shadowing, I didn’t focus on getting my pronunciation as perfect as possible, but instead focused on listening to the speakers vocal dynamics and pitch as closely as I could. When I repeated after them, I paid attention to my breath and how high versus low pitch “feels” physically when I make sounds. I guess in short, it was kind of an exercise in mimicking prosody.

I did the first 30 minutes yesterday using an audiobook with a really clear narrator and the second 30 minutes today using a YouTube video where the speaker wasn’t very clear and mumbled a lot and the mumbly video was ironically easier to shadow with. :sweat_smile: The speech was slower and more natural and I could also just mumble through the mumbly parts. :joy:

Anyways, I felt like that way some of my most effective shadowing yet! I had a lot of learnings from it already after just two days! First of all, trying to mimic the vocal dynamics of the speaker while using mostly correct pronunciation (but not trying too hard like I said, I just tried to be natural and self correct here and there if I felt like vowels were shifting away from where they were supposed to be or something) was tricky! I mentioned a few days ago that it feels like I use the back part of my mouth way more as a kind of focal point (?) where the sound comes from, and combining that with breath and pitch was interesting. This is kind of obvious when thinking about it now, but improving your pronunciation is all about how you project sound and there is so much to it! :joy:

Another thing was related to “feeling” pitch. This also feels obvious too, but I never actually sat and paid attention to this before - of course there is a difference in how the vibrations feel when you’re singing or talking at different pitches. When stepping up in pitch, I can feel the sound vibrations coming out from higher up in my face/skull almost around my nasal cavity. I experimented with that, listening for the speaker’s pitch and those moments that sounded similar in sound quality to my vibrations and then played around with my own voice. It kind of felt like doing that unlocked a new level of being able to hear and perceive pitch more reliably, which is really exciting!

I will keep doing the same practice for the rest of the week since I want to further dig into the things I’ve been learning from my experiments, but I think I will regularly cycle around between different focuses like specific sounds, prosody, pitch etc. and see if I start noticing overall improvements over the course of the month. I love a good experiment! :nerd_face:

Besides that, another thing I learned is that it’s great to simply put on music or enjoy the silence after setting an insane goal of 80 hours for myself last month. There is no need to squeeze every last drop of productivity out of every free moment I have… :melting_face: Language learning can be a tricky hobby because the more time you put in, the more you tend to improve, which makes it tempting to put more and more in. But, a language like Japanese will take absolutely everything you give it and still always want more, so balance is important. :disappointed:

Ok, thanks for reading my unscientific diary about me talking to myself! :wave:t2:

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I’m starting to do some shadowing exercises again, so it’s nice to see someone talk about it. How do you select what you want to shadow?

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So I binged the rest of ちょびっツ yesterday which was great because I could understand almost everything.

Started testing some other shows today. Watched 2 episodes each of プリンセスコネクト!Re:Dive and 僕だけがいない街. The latter felt much easier to follow.

I also did half an hour of audiobook. I want to do more audiobook time but I haven’t gotten into a good routine with it yet.

Total for the month so far: 22.75

At this rate I’ll blow past the goal. I’m thankful to this challenge for motivating me to make listening a more consistent part of my language learning.

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If you like Princess Connect, the web radio is a nice thing to put on the background.

They have been going for it for a long time, and I like the VAs shenanigans between them

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I’m not quite sure how I feel about the show yet after the first two episodes. But the characters do seem interesting so I think I’ll continue it. Thanks for the additional resource!

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That’s a good question :thinking: I’ve actually just been shadowing what I’m already listening to and haven’t picked any specific speakers or type of content yet, but I am sure there could be benefits to it (I’ve heard of a language parent before, for example).

Are you picking any kind of specific content to shadow??

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In language class they pick stuff well below the class level. It needs to be something the class understands to 100%.

There is also the theory from the immersion community that you should only shadow someone who is approximately the same age and gender expression as yourself.

:thinking:

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A language patent?

Miku Real Japanese shadowing course (has other variants + samples here) - which I purchased a while back. It’s essentially a structured grammar course w/ shadowing exercises. The main benefit for me is sentence formulation, so stuff like intonation, pronunciation, speed, rhythm, etc, are secondary benefits. I’ve gone through the lessons before, so now I’m just doing the exercises.

Even with some of those exercises, one thing that’s interesting is that I can really hear when my intonation is off (a lot more than I expected honestly). Also that some patterns I’ve already really internalized, and others are harder to get out. It’s very similar to playing music, in the way that you can’t pause in the middle


This question encouraged me to try with an audiobook briefly, so I pulled up ソードアート・オンライン4 フェアリィ・ダンス | L34 , 義妹生活 | L30, and 弱キャラ友崎くん | L29 - and tried a few sentences.

All 3 are hard. The biggest challenge for me is just speaking fast enough, without pausing or stumbling. I can manage it on slightly slower speed. One thing I realized is that I can do shadowing without it being structured… Like I could just pick a random clip from an anime episode, or a random excerpt from a book, or w/e, and it will be equally beneficial (assuming it’s not too high level). I’ll stick with the exercises for now, but nice to know that freedom is there. Thx for the inspiration


Anyway those are my random thoughts for now

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