The objective of this thread is for the initial feedback such as bugs encountered and requests to be discussed all in one place.
Shouldnât all items currently have a (?) behind them?
PRODUCT UPDATE : Audiovisual is here!!!
Weâre excited to announce that Movies & TV shows are finally here!
You can now add movies and tv shows to your library, and weâve added a bunch of movies and tv shows to the site already.
Weâre still working on adding more, but weâre excited to have this feature live!
Most of the features youâre used to from books are also available for movies and tv shows, including:
- Adding to your library & custom lists
- Marking your incremental progress and stats tracking
- Writing personal reviews
- Grading difficulty
- Days Watched tracking
- Activity feed
Things generally operate similarly to books, but there are a few differences which weâll describe below. If you have any feedback or immediate bugs, please send a message in this thread.
Where do I find Movies & TV Shows?
Simply to the video search page. You will also
notice the global search now allows you to select a search for books or videos.
You will also notice that we have genres(!) for movies and tv shows, which, along with all our other video data, comes from https://www.themoviedb.org/.
Incremental Progress Marking
You can mark your progress on movies and tv shows in the same way you do for books, through your dashboard or in the item popup in your library. Movies work exactly the same as books, except âCurrent Pageâ is replaced with âCurrent Minuteâ.
TV shows, on the other hand, are a bit different. Since TV shows are episodic, we have a few different ways you can mark your progress. If youâre watching the episodes sequentially, you can mark your current minute and episode, which will auto mark all episode up until that point as finished.
If you are not watching the episodes sequentially, or you skipped an episode, then you can go to the tv season page and mark the episodes youâve watched. You can even specify the minutes you watched in each episode.
We really strived to make the TV season progress marking to be flexible for those who want to input all progress information, but still easy for those who care less about that. We still arenât sure if we struck the right balance, so weâd love to hear your thoughts and feedback!
Recording subtitle information
For all videos youâre watching, finished or stopped, we request that you tell us if you watched with Japanese subtitles or not. This is important to us for a variety of reasons, but the primary impact youâll see is that you wonât be prompted to grade things with similar subtitle information. In other words, movies you watched without subtitles are only compared with other movies you watched without audio. We think the best difficulty comparisons are between like media with a similar experience
We also ask that you do not mark videos watched with English subtitles or dubs as âWatchedâ. Rather, we have a dedicated âEnglish subsâ status which does not impact your stats or ask you to grade those videos.
We really want the videos you mark âWatchedâ be videos where you engaged with Japanese.
In order to streamline subtitle information input, we allow you to set your âdefault subsâ settings in the quick add menu you see here.
These icons showcase subtitle informtion youâve input. The loudspeaker icon is obviously audio only
Difficulty Grading
As you might expect, the grading interface is exactly the same. A few notes:
- You can only grade movies vs movies and tv vs tv
- You can only compare items watched with similar subtitle settings (audio only vs audio only)
- For the time being, you can grade video items up to 10 levels apart (standard is 5) and each item you can grade 10 times (standard is 6)
If you have any feedback on the difficulty grading (too few items?), let us know!
Requesting New Videos
You can also <a href={window.gs.urls[âadd-resourceâ]}>request new videos. One of the amazing things is that you can search for video on TMDB right on Natively, request it and see it added immediately!
It may take an hour for all the episodes and seasons to be added for TV series, so please be somewhat patient. Also, please use responsibly
Filtering out Video-related activities
Are you only a bookworm at heart? Well, if you donât want to see video-related activities in your feed you can filter them out with the âbooksâ filter.
You can also set a default for that filter in your user preferences.
Iâm super excited to be releasing this feature. As mentioned before, If you have any feedback or immediate bugs, please send a message here. However, iâm sure there is a lot feedback and iteration before audiovisual is truly as good as books. Please b
As for whatâs coming up, I think itâs mostly fixing up things on audiovisual based on your feedback. Iâd like to add an FAQs page, improve a few things about videos and maybe implement a configurable âfavoritesâ list.
Let me know what you think!
Yeah youâre right. Technically theyâre not âtemporaryâ in the system (i need some non temporary things so the system can work), but youâre right, Iâll fix that up.
I wish you could grade the individual seasons/arcs differently.
Especially for long-running shows like One Piece where the difficulty can move around as the show progresses
Well, I can configure certain series to be handled that way, just like I do with Harry Potter for books
Do you think One Piece should be? I know thatâs a very long running showâŚ
Also welcome to the forums!
Yeah I think it should be, considering the fact that itâs really long and the individual arcs can have a lot of variance in the vocabulary used etc
Is it normal that after adding a show, you canât find it via the search function yet? Is it just going to take a while?
EDIT: Itâs there a couple minutes later, so Iâm guessing the answer is yes
Ok, good to know. I usually try to get a few peopleâs input on that sort of decision, so Iâll see who marks it finished and try to see if others agree too.
In the future, I think itâd probably be better to simply grade seasons against each other only, rather than every individual item being graded against outside items. The latter probably introduces a lot more noise.
Sorry! I have to approve it before it appears in search. Perhaps Iâll get rid of that stepâŚ
I also just sped the tv series population, should only take less than 5 mins.
Oh, thatâs the thread where I should post instead, never mind
Hereâs another problem!
I am watching the latest Pokemon series with my kids, so I thought, why not, letâs just add that.
One issue is that TMDB bundle ALL series together, which, sure, why not. It looks a bit ugly, but I donât think anything can be done about it:
The problem, though, is that we only get the five seasons of the original series, and none from the other series (despite TMDB listing them up as well). (Edit: The reboot we are watching is listed as seasons 23-25)
That alt titles section
Yeah Iâm not entirely sure what to do here (outside of limiting the size of the alt titles section shownâŚ). Weâre always going to have some issues when it comes how we slice things up.
Iâm a bit confused though⌠are you saying there are other series which should be in this series? But for some reason arenât?
At some point we can certainly start contributing to TMDB with regards to editing the data. Not sure how big of issue itâll be.
No, when I was checking it after it got added, only the first 5 seasons (i.e. the original run, I guess?) were listed. Now, all âseasonsâ are present. Maybe it was a timing thing?
Go me. This thread is pinned and I still overlook it.
I deleted my request, so letâs put it here, where it belongs.
Contributors get listed below the cover/title when grading. ALL contributors, it seems. Which in case of books, is not so bad, but with movies and TV series that list can get rather long. Any chance of hiding that list behind a âmoreâ button, or to just cut it off after X amount of characters? Otherwise I have to scroll quite a bit to reach the grading buttons.
Ah, I see. Yeah I launched with a very conservative tmdb data scraper so scraping was taking a long time. I looked at the documentation again and they claim you can scrape as fast as you want, so I made it quite aggressive now.
Basically, the scraping of all the seasons & episodes should take no more than 5-7 minutes now.
Yeah, Iâm tempted to get rid of them entirely when movies / tv shows are displayed as little widgets. Youâd still be able to see the contributors on the movie / season page⌠but I think contributors are less important than book authors.
Regardless, will definitely remove for the grading display, agreed.
Fixed
Removed contributors from all Movie & TV âitemsâ, so this shouldnât be an issue anymore
For Audiovisuals only aggregate gradings can be viewed. When I click on individual gradings I get a blank page.