百合 manga/novel discussion

Most of the time (though there are exceptions, when there is an intentional bait and switch), I want to know the genre of a story and would not consider that a spoiler. A common definition of romance is that there is some kind of happy ever after relationship. Definitions of Yuri often include that something kind of lesbian must be there. Ideally I would see that the romance or Yuri tag is missing and make my inference from there.

So, no, I would most likely not consider it a spoiler.

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For me it depends on the series and context. If it is clearly just fanservice, then I have no problem with it. I’ve gone through several series with 1-2 百合 characters, but it’s never expected to go anywhere, so I don’t get my hopes up and just enjoy the character interactions that come from it.

For example, in ゆるゆり | L20 nearly every character is into another character (all girls), but the entire series relies on nothing ever happening between them.

In ご注文はうさぎですか? 1 | L24, one of the main characters has a crush on another, but from context it’s clear that they will never get together.

I don’t have any problem with either of these series because it’s made clear that nothing will ever happen, so I don’t get my hopes up.

On the other hand, in まちカドまぞく | L35 , the two main characters clearly developed strong feelings for each other over the series. One even confessed before immediately back-pedaling.

When they inevitably don’t end up together by the end I will be very upset. In this case, if I was reading it after it was finished, I would definitely want to know ahead of time if they ended up together or not because focus is put on their relationship and feelings through-out the series.

I would consider it a spoiler in this case though. So I probably wouldn’t see it because I wouldn’t want to see the rest of the spoiler tags, which was the original issue that started this conversation anyway.

The best solution, if a little inconvenient, might be to search for the series with the search bar.

Then modify the search to include the spoiler tag in question.
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That way you can see if that specific tag is present without seeing the other spoiler tags.

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Agreed

I think that’s usually the case for me as well… and especially for stuff where like you said “there is no straight explanation for this”

Yup… I’ve wondered the right way to go about this in the past too tho (even with straight stories/potential romances)

On one hand, when I first read it, the “will they, won’t they” was definitely a meaningful part of the experience (but I also hadn’t read so much yuri back then)… but I do remember feeling a bit let down by the end (not as extremely as others apparently). I wonder if knowing would really have changed my impression much. Curious to see how it feels, once I get to rereading it.

Ahhh I was wondering what was up with that series (I’m not super into it, but it’s in yurihime, so I read it)

I just assume all Manga Time KR series are fanservice until proven otherwise. I don’t really think of them as bait, since there’s nothing to suggest the characters will get together.

That doesn’t really help for writing reviews or forum posts tho (which is what prompted me to ask this question)… I did just create a Yuri Bait tag and added it to 夜のクラゲは泳げない (as a spoiler) tho… not sure if others can use it yet, since it says it needs approval.

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I can approve it, but I wonder if we should make a more general tag (queer baiting?) instead?

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I prefer the more narrow tag personally. A series could have yuri bait while still having other LGBT characters represented well, or vice versa. And on the same token, someone could specifically be looking only for series that are yuri bait, rather than another/additional type

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