Description of your request or bug report:
- Remove the existing “favorites” section on the profile, which really just shows all 5 star rated books
- Allow users to manually specify favorite books and series (which would be shown together)
- Allow users to order these favorites
- Display these favorites on the profile page, including the cover art for each book/series
- Potentially bucket with custom list updates & featured lists
I’m not sure if it would be better to have one section that includes all books or if manga should be split out. The tough part is that while I think it would be nice for manga to be separate, I would want novels and LNs to be together. I wonder how others would want that organized.
I personally would love to see separated sections for manga and LN/novels. Gives me more room to pick favorites, if nothing else. Plus, I feel like it’d encourage people to branch out a bit when picking; if manga and novels are in one list, I’m sure more would fill up their favorites bar with just/mostly manga. But if they’re separated, it gives the novels more chance to breathe.
I agree. I just wouldn’t want a favorites section for every book type individually. I don’t want to separate books from LNs because those lists are already small enough for me! But if Brandon wouldn’t mind two favorites lists: one for manga only and one for novels, LNs, and children’s books together (no other book types selectable), that would make me happy.
So I think all of this fits well with the custom list updates I’m planning… except allowing you to favorite series. I guess more generally being to add a series to a list might be nice as well, but I’d prefer to at least start with favorites without series, and then add series as a ‘V2’.
I think I wouldn’t by default break apart manga and other books. Rather, I think it makes more sense to be able to put any custom list on your profile page. Then users could simply only put novels / other books in their favorites and have a ‘Favorite Manga’ list which they bump up to their profile page.
I know you’ve expressed a little disappointment @seanblue at leveraging custom lists for favorites in this way (hopefully just because of the series issue), but it will be simpler I think and allow a bit more functionality for custom lists in general.
Proposal: Split out including ‘series’ in favorites and mark that as V2.
With a “custom list” approach, how are you planning to surface those lists on a user’s profile? Will the user have the option of designating “featured” lists or something? I assume so based on “have a ‘Favorite Manga’ list which they bump up to their profile page” but wanted to make sure. Personally, I would never go to a user’s actual library just to see if they have “favorite” lists, so it would have to be surfaced on the profile in some way.
Yes, honestly I would not use this feature if I can’t designate series. I’m unlikely to favorite an individual volume of any series, especially not manga or light novels. The individual volumes tend to all blur together, so I wouldn’t call out specific volumes as favorites. So of the 6 manga I listed as favorites on my profile I would mark none as official favorites, and for the 4 books I listed I could mark 2-3 of them. But at that point it would feel too sparse, so I would probably still not bother.
Additionally, while the lack of series support was my primary concern with this approach, there’s a second reason I don’t like it. To me, having to create “favorite” lists in my library just adds noise. Specifically, custom lists are for me and favorites on my profile are for everyone else. I don’t want to see my favorites listed separately every time I go to my library. I’m not saying that’s the only way to use favorites / custom lists of course. That’s just how I use them on AniList and it works well for me there, so I plan to do the same here.
If you think this is valuable enough to do as a V1 that’s your call of course. I do worry a bit that you’d be designing yourself into a corner since the V2 support for series doesn’t fit into that design. Specifically, it would be weird to display series in the library as separate entries (as part of a custom list), so at that point “favorites” would have to diverge from “custom lists” anyway. Or did you have something in mind for that?
Ok, that’s good feedback. I guess I thought people could mark the first volume of a series as a favorite for a placeholder… but I’ll think on it. I can see how you’d be reluctant to do that.
Right, ‘featured lists’ on your profile seems like a nice feature and one people probably expect with GoodReads having that functionality. It’d be nice to tackle all those together, but the series aspect certainly throws a wrench in things. I’ll think on it
Well, I will approve this as a feature. Not entirely sure yet on how i’ll handle series, but at least a version 1 should get into Trello.