Product Updates & Casual Natively Discussion

So you mentioned it briefly in the Korean reading thread @brandon, but I wanted to get some clarification: how does Natively handle adding whole series from Yes24? I took a glance and didn’t see an obvious series page, though grabbed I don’t read a word of Korean. Do the books need to be requested separately?

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They do have series pages but they’re not always very good… I think I may need to switch to aladin, another bookstore. They seem to have better series, but still with some issues :sweat_smile:

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Just want to make sure you didn’t miss my previous post, since I made it right when you were responding to something else.

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Got it. Agreed on the clutter of ‘Browse’, but at the same time I know people like those quick links and that clutter is related to a dropdown, not top level. Still, you’re right perhaps I should clean it a little… or move some links to the footer.

However, the other links i’m more hesitant to change. Forums I definitely want on top nav, as otherwise its less promoted on the site and easily forgotten about.

As for including My Books / My Videos, I think it’s too much. The current header is much cleaner imo… and using the dropdown for My Books / My Videos feels pretty intuitive. But duly noted on the feedback, will keep it in mind.

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@brandon When/how do you plan to add webtoons for Korean? Also, how will they affect stats since they don’t have page numbers? And if they’re ongoing will that affect how they’re listed?

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That definitely a nicer color for the dropdown

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So, webtoons are not really in the plans at the moment. I know they’re popular for Japanese too. Do you read a lot of webtoons?

Honestly, i’m not even sure where you find webtoons… is it through an app?

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Literally an app called Webtoons or webtoons.com. For the Korean version, it’s comic.naver.com. There’s also a site/app called Tapas, and probly others. I tried to build a webtoon tracker React app a while back (just as a personal project), and the API situation was very frustrating. Hopefully it’s better now.

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Very minor thing, but am I the only one that finds the square flags super jarring :sweat_smile:. Korean flag isn’t as symmetric, but for Japanese it looks so odd. I just hid it with uBlock anyway, so no big deal, but just curious.

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Another fellow cosmetic hacker :rofl:

I also find the flag in the profile weird because it has a square box and is rectangular.

Once you see it, you can unsee it

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Hmm, it works for me but maybe that’s just dark mode quirks.

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Ahh the joys (pains) of dealing with icons :upside_down_face:. Likely you can fix that by changing either the font color or background color for the icon

As @暁のルナ said, 네이버 웹툰 is really popular, as is Kakao Page. Naver is more popular in the Korean learning community since it’s free and easier to access outside of Korea. I read a lot of webtoons (as in, 1000+ chapters per year in English) so I would really appreciate if you added them!

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There are hundreds of webtoon sites, and it probably deserves its own thread, but here are some of the big ones:

Korean: Bomtoon, Lezhin, KakaoPage, Comico, Ridibooks, Mr Blue, WebComics, Peanutoon, Manyeo Comics
English: INKR, LEZHIN US, MangaPlanet, Bilibili, Manta, Mangatoon, Webnovel, Tappytoon

Some of them are available from retailers as ebooks, and the most popular ones often have physical copies. Still, the vast majority are only available in webtoon format, so it would be nice to have the option, especially since it’s difficult and prohibitively expensive to acquire physical manhwa outside Korea.

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I really appreciate all those links @NihongoLearner19 @bibliothecary!

I’d certainly love to do it and I’ll keep it in mind, but yeah I don’t think it’ll be happening very soon. Hopefully the most popular toons are indeed published as a physical edition.

It’s just hard to add new data types and there’s lot to do already… not to mention lots of requested data types already :laughing:

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@brandon A few minor things on the Korean side:

  • when adding ‘where to find’ links, there’s a furigana checkbox
  • when requesting a new book, the search result still reads “view Aladin”
  • The book filter includes Japanese prizes and WK book club
  • The book search page lists “comics”, but the browse drop-down list and the my books page lists “manga”. Could these be changed to “manhwa”?
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Is there a way to mark just selected episodes of a series as watched (because of poor reception of the station), like #1,2,5,7 and probably some more to come?

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You should be able to do that on that series’ page. Just scroll down to the episodes list, and click/tap the tiny icon on the right of the episode’s frame. Here’s how it looks on mobile:

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I’m liking the auto-add setup making its way over from TV/Movies to the Book item request page @brandon! I can see a lot of potential for extra options to add to the book version: a checkbox for Mature books, for whether there’s a digital version, for whether there’s an audiobook, etc etc. Is it too soon to start thinking of this stuff? Should I hold until you’ve gotten more Korean kinks wrapped up? Should I create a product request? (Do we already have one, speaking of?)

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:laughing: :laughing: you submitted a book request! @eefara do you even know what those squiggles mean?

Yes, it’s a bit too early for product requests, I’m still iterating on how it all works. But I can tell you already that I would maybe only add the ‘mature’ tickbox. We don’t want the initial form to be super long and intimidating. Many of those things could be added on a book after it’s created. :slight_smile:

But yes, let’s wait… I got enough on my plate right now!

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