Product Updates & Casual Natively Discussion

Trying to mark a partial update with https://learnnatively.com/season/caa5fa4cf6/ and it’s saying “Issues with our servers”. Have tried from both my dashboard, and the series page.

Also the series title only displays as ワタモテ (its nickname), instead of the full 私がモテないのはどう考えてもお前らが悪い. It also doesn’t show up under search, using the non-abbreviated title.

Happy to send that via the Leave Feedback button, that’s better

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I think I’ve run into a similar issue and the cause was that the “total pages” field was not filled in under “Basic Info”.

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It’s a TV season… But maybe it needs more time to sync with the database first or something? Guess I’ll try again later Nm, the show’s already been on the site for a while.

Tangentially the manga happens to be missing the Total Pages too (looks like it’s missing on Amazon in the first place)

:person_facepalming: totally missed it was a show!

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With the upcoming Spanish update, I’ve been thinking about what books I would be able to mark as read. However, I just realized, most of those books I’ve read 3-6 years ago, so grading them would be difficult. Like, I can distincly remember two novels being much harder than the others, but for the rest I wouldn’t know where to even start.

I haven’t had that problem with Korean, because I started reading more recently, so does anyone have tips on how to deal with that? Or should I just not grade those books to avoid inaccurate gradings?

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If you have the time, you could flip through those books again. Not necessarily on the kennel of a full re-read, but just enough to jot down notes or see if anything reminds you of the general difficulty.

If you don’t have the books/don’t have time/are having a hard time telling what was more difficult, I personally would just skip grading them.

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I have my whole decade plus history of Japanese books on Natively, so there are a lot of older books on it I don’t really remember well. My approach is that if the comparison is really easy I do it (eg I can confidently say an Akagawa Jirou is easier than some essays by Tanizaki even if I barely remember either). Otherwise I make liberal use of the “don’t ask me to grade against this book” option hidden under the gearwheel config icon in the grading dialog.

I do think Natively should try to prioritize asking you about books you’ve read recently rather than ones with a completion date many years in the past. That would make me more likely to put in gradings, I think.

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Hmm… what do you mean by a ‘partial update’? Is that a 'partial episode update"?

If so, be sure to have your current episode # equal to 1 or above. I think it’s easy to leave it to zero. If that’s not the issue, mind giving me a bit more info?

I agree with the approach @pm215 recommends! And duly noted @pm215, the prompting could be improved… but ultimately I think it’s a pretty small issue as you have the tools (skip, block) to handle it pretty well.

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Ahhh, that’s exactly it. I was thinking of the Ep box as “episode finished”, but I see now that when you click “mark partial episode”, it changes to “Current Episode”. So it was on 0, just like you’re suggesting.

Maybe it should be set so it just turns into 1, if the user tries to submit it as 0?

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yeah i think that’d make sense!

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FWIW i’ve filed a false positive report which they approved… so shouldn’t be seeing anymore. Another person on reddit encountered it which prompted me to take action.

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I noticed that 檸檬 was missing from Natively (it’s a story for the Aozora Advent) and I requested it, but thought it was odd because I remembered already requesting it. Turns out I did:
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It looks like the short story collection is what ended up on my wishlist though (I removed it). Is there a bug relating to same title/author?

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I didn’t think Natively made that distinction? For example 陰翳礼讃 | L44 is an essay collection but has the Aozora link to the title essay.

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That’s terribly inconvenient if so, as the story is 10 pages and the collection is 276. I’d much prefer to have both on the site as they are not the same thing at all in my mind.

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Yeah, I agree; ideally the collection would cross link to all the short story items, too.

(But it doesn’t affect me personally because I use Natively only for books, not manga or individual short stories and essays.)

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How’s this coming along? I requested a manga that just came out today and already read it, but since it’s not auto-added I have to wait and remember to add it correctly after you add it.

I think this is a nice example of the “editions” issue that Natively currently faces, i.e. there cannot be multiple editions of “the same book” (which is determined by “has the same title”, it seems). Even for “regular” books, sometimes an edition includes a separate short story while another edition does not, but in the case of short stories and short story collections, there is even much more variation…

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There can be. I think Brandon just doesn’t want there to be until the editions feature is worked out. I think that’s mostly to avoid splitting ratings for the same series. But there are occasionally multiple editions already on Natively.

For example:

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I’ve hit a few roadblocks when i’ve tried to push to production and have had to rework my approach. Should have it out this week, but it still may be a slightly delayed upload… but <5 mins. We’ll see if I can figure it out.

Yeah that’s right @seanblue. We can list things however we want, but if we don’t have good edition handling then reviews & gradings are split, not to mention destroying browse on the search page.

In most instances there aren’t the complications @nikoru lays out, which is why I have the general policy of no editions yet. However, if there’s a good reason for it, like not listing a certain edition significantly harms your tracking of said book (eg: a manga edition with a differing number of volumes), I’m happy to list another edition. We do have a number of those on the site :slight_smile:

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In perfect timing for me to get the post out, much appreciated :pray:

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