Rivens' learning log (of accountability)

I’ve been wanting to do one of these for a while now. So let’s see how this goes. :slight_smile:

As you might have guessed from the title I mainly want to use this as my means of sharing accountability to keep my learning streak going! If I somehow motivate or inspire someone else along the way it would be even better!

I will be mainly posting stats and small updates on what I’ve been doing. I’ll also post about things I want to try out in my studies and maybe cool things I’ve encountered or learned!

For the people interested in more details here’s a little background on what I’ve been doing (or actually have been evading doing a lot of the time :upside_down_face: ) up until now and what I want to use this learning log for.

A little bit of history

I started learning Japanese back in 2020, where I only focused on consuming the language, so I have not committed to speaking or writing during this time.
This doesn’t mean I’ve spent a full five years actively learning Japanese. There were stretches where I spent quite some time with the language, but also long pauses where I did very little or nothing at all.

To give a rough idea of where I was during the height of my journey I will use the JLPT levels. I think I would have been somewhere near N2 level, which my Anki deck of 7000+ cards seems to reflect.

Since then, I’ve had more long stretches of inactivity, the longest probably being most of 2024. However, at the end of that year I finally visited Japan, which reinvigorated my eagerness to get better at the language.
But as you might expect, due to my attention shifting to other things in life I fell back into old habits again.

That is until August, when I decided to kickstart the journey again. I used that month to finally catch up on the thousands of Anki cards in my review backlog.
I also spent time reading NHK Easy articles and listening to songs to tune my ears again. I feel like this brought me back to around N3 level.
Which brings us to the present, where I finally want to commit to the climb towards ‘fluency’ while taking you all along through this study log!

So why this log?

Back when I started learning I loved reading the progress reports that frequently appeared on Reddit, and I even posted a few as well. They served as a little boost of motivation to keep going.

These boosts of motivation are quite short lived however, which means you have to fall back on consistency to keep going. Since staying consistent is often pretty difficult (as you might have read in my history) it would be great to have another tool.

That tool is accountability, and when I saw these study log threads I knew these would be the perfect vehicle for this. This way I can more easily update the world on my progress in a more frequent matter.

So basically I’m using this study log to keep accountable and maybe it will also serve as a motivation for others who may or may not have been in the same situation I have been in!

I’ve seen people update these logs on a near day to day basis. That’s a bit too frequent for what I want to achieve. I want to report more frequently to keep myself accountable for shorter periods than the (semi) yearly progress report, but I also don’t want it to be so frequent that there is barely any progress to talk about.

This is why I am currently thinking about doing bigger stats supported reports monthly with simple stat updates weekly leading up to them. Along the way I might also post about interesting things I came across or new ideas I want to try to implement into my system.

Now we’re mentioning that…

The plan

I want to create a habit of immersing in the language and learning sets of Anki cards created from that material. In order to achieve that I will spend an average minimum number of hours daily on several facets of language learning.

I will use the nice art of 改善 to start with lengths of time I feel comfortable with, which I’ll then slowly increase once the current length is ingrained into my daily life.

I’ve decided to begin with these:

  • Spend 1 hour reading, adding 0.5 hour every couple of weeks once I feel like it is starting to become a habit.
  • Spend 1 hour listening, adding 0.5 hour every couple of weeks once I feel like it is starting to become a habit.
  • Learn 5 new Anki cards created from my immersion, increasing it by 1 card every week or so up until a max of about 20 p/d.

Like I said, these are daily averages for the week. This means that there could be days where I might do less and other days where I might do more.
This way I could catch up in the weekend if I had a busy workday or the other way around if I know I’ll be gone for the weekend. As long as the average numbers for that week are not below the required ones.

Notice that I used hours per day here instead of aiming for a specific number of books finished or something similar. This will keep me focused on being consistent and will keep me progressing through material no matter what.
This way it doesn’t matter if I have a bad day or if new material is more difficult than expected. As long as I spent the time immersing in the language I’m happy!

My plan is to mainly use books and manga for reading and anime, dramas and movies for listening. The rest of the time will be spent with news, articles, Youtube, podcasts and songs.

I have ordered the main material I’m interested in based on Natively level and will use that as a rough order to work through it.
Of course this does not mean I have to be that strict, but I do want the general trend to be following the levels so that I’ll mainly be using comprehensible input.

The future

While I don’t really have any concrete goals with set dates I do want to briefly mention some things I want to do or achieve in the near future:

  • The first and main thing of course is to have a habit of daily immersion and to steadily progress my language ability.
  • Start conversational practice using a tutor. I want to visit Japan again in the very near future and I want to be a better speaker than last time so that my experience will be even better this time around!
  • Pass the JLPT N1. This used to be a goal during my early days. Then I kind of let it slide. Now I want to try to do the exam after all, as it might be beneficial to me if I do want to spend a year or so working the country if the opportunity arises.
  • Join the mystery book club! I love mystery and detective books and there seem to be a lot of awesome ones in Japanese that never make it out of the language. However, due to their nature these are often also amongst the more difficult books language wise.
    I hope that by the time that I feel comfortable joining it will be up and running again!

I started my journey again on the 1st of this month, since it was both the start of the month and a Monday. It seemed like a perfect day for the statistics to start as well!

This also means that I’ve already been putting off creating this log for a week and I’ll already be posting a small updates with some stats tomorrow. Time moves so fast!

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Welcome to the loggers club!

That tracks :joy:

Sounds like a good plan to me! I’ve had a number of my own starts and stops over the years and slower always seems to be what prevails in the end. Hopefully this log and community will be helpful for your studies going forward :blush:

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Brave move. I think I would have just deleted that deck entirely and restarted from scratch lol.

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Indeed! I have a habit of ‘go big or go home’ in the sense that I always try to do much when I have something I am interested about. Then the eventual burnout happens or, very often, I have some other interest that becomes the main event for a while, etc.
This last year I’ve been trying to balance things more and being more consistent instead of wanting to do too much, even though I know I can and want to do more. :joy:

It kind of scared me too, tbh. But by spreading it out over a whole month and doing small bits throughout the day it wasn’t actually that bad in hindsight.

Anyway, first week is already done, so let’s look at some stats!

Stats

Total hours: 24
Anki hours: 7
Listening hours: 7
Reading hours: 9,5
New Anki cards learned: 35

Reading

  • https://learnnatively.com/book/5cca8520a9/ (Finished) - Love this series! Such a nice, laid back and pretty easy to read manga. Started off by doing a chapter a day, but by the end of the week I noticed how my reading speed has increased quite a bit already.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/23a6fc3101/ - Already started the next volume. I want to finish this series before moving on to a new manga. There’s only a handful of them left after this anyway.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/10ffd86142/ - Pretty fun so far! Here as well I noticed how much my reading increased over the week. Still not back to my old speed, but it’s interesting to see how fast you regain that ‘reading muscle’ after a long hiatus.
  • A bunch of NHK Easy articles each day. Too easy now, so for the upcoming week I slowly want to dip into the actual NHK News again (± 10 minutes a day).

Listening

  • https://learnnatively.com/season/0b82ac59c3/ (Finished) - Read part of the first volume in a Wanikani book club in the past, so I kind of knew what to expect. Not bad, not great. Overall just pretty relaxing. I probably liked the one adventurous episode towards the end the most.
  • https://learnnatively.com/season/ce7d69436f/ - Pretty good start! It’s a cute and funny show so far. Seeing them back to back, this feels way easier than ふらいんぐうぃっち so far.
  • A lot of podcast episodes and songs during walking and commuting.

This was a good week! It was pretty easy to hit the target times, even on busier days. As you can see I gravitate more towards reading, as it is naturally more interesting and enjoyable to me. It’s just way harder for me to sit still and watch something than to sit and read. No clue why it is that way for me, since I’d wager it’s the other way around for most people. Of course it could have to do with the fact that I read in the morning and watch the shows in the evening before going to bed. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

This week I’ll increase my new cards on Anki by one to a total of 6 a day. My original plan was to incorporate half an hour of a VN by week 2, but I feel it’s still a little bit too early for that. Instead of that I’ll try to watch one more anime episode per day, since I still have so many series on my watch list!

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New week, new stats!

Stats

Total hours: 24
Anki hours: 7
Listening hours: 7
Reading hours: 10
New Anki cards learned: 24

Reading

  • https://learnnatively.com/book/23a6fc3101/ (Finished) - Fun as always. Language wise not too special and pretty repetitive. I guess that’s why the rating is so low, since I’ve read easier stuff before.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/f402672583/ (Finished) - Loved the connection between the first chapter and the おまけ.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/10ffd86142/ - Feel like I am getting more used to reading consistently this week. I will probably finish it somewhere mid week 3. I like the more adventurous tone it took after a couple of chapters, while still keeping the comedy. I think I’ve seen someone mention Scooby Doo in one of the reviews for one of these books and I kind of get that now.
  • Some NHK News articles. Takes some time to get used to after the Easy News articles, but they are pretty okay after a while. Of course the difficult depends on the subject a lot.

Listening

  • https://learnnatively.com/season/ce7d69436f/ (Finished) - It became a little more involved and difficult language wise as the series progressed, but I could still follow it pretty well with Japanese subs. It does almost feel like two different series stitched together though. Halfway it seems to start leaning more heavily into the romance part and less into the comedy, as far as the main character is concerned. His bad luck kind of… disappears? I don’t know about the manga, so I have no clue if the anime is just so inconsistent. Loved some of the side characters though!
  • https://learnnatively.com/season/33a4071919/ - I didn’t really read the blurb for the series, so I expected this to be another light high school anime. Heavier than expected, but it’s good variety amongst the more comedy leaning anime I’ve watched the past two weeks. I don’t know what it is about them, but I love the art design for the characters faces. They have this unique charm to them.
  • https://learnnatively.com/season/eb730bec19/ - Have watched the first couple of episodes in the past, so I knew what to expect. Next week I’ll be in unknown territory however, which I’m looking forward to!
  • Podcast episodes and songs during walking and commuting.

Mixed feelings, leaning towards positive, this week. I was on track to slightly improve last week’s numbers, but I made some questionable life choices which led me to barely do anything on Saturday, haha. So while things didn’t go according to plan I did bounce back immediately on Sunday to keep the overall hours for the week consistent with last week. I think it was a great experience to learn to sometimes take your losses and relax and then try to recover immediately the day after.

For the upcoming week I’ve decided to keep things the same as the last week, except for the reading hours. In originally planned to set the minimum reading hours per day to 1.5 by week 3, which I feel is easily reachable. On most days I’m already reading for nearly that time naturally. Content wise I don’t really know what I want to pick up exactly. Since I only own one Kirby volume I think I’ll move onto 夜カフェ after finishing that. In the past I have finished the first 3 books and I still own a couple more of them, so it seems like a good choice. This week I also stumbled upon the manga for また、同じ夢を見ていた, which I didn’t even know existed! I read the book back in 2023, following a wanikani book club and was quite impressed by the depth of it coming from children’s novels at the time. I might start reading the manga after finishing the Takagi series to see how it adds to the novel’s experience! :slight_smile:

There are still some listening strategies I’ve heard about and toyed with in the past that I might want to try out again soon. I might post about them later this week or in the next update post. For now I still want to focus on steady growth and making it all feel natural.

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Not a super interesting week. Just tried to put in my hours when possible. Here’s this weeks stats with a brain dump afterwards.

Stats

Total hours: 21
Anki hours: 7
Listening hours: 5
Reading hours: 10
New Anki cards learned: 12

Reading

  • https://learnnatively.com/book/6ec52bd96f/ (Finished) - More Takagi. No standouts in this volume, but just a solid basis for more colloquial language.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/193bd403cc/ - Was hoping to finish this as well and the series as a whole the week after, but I just didn’t have the time.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/10ffd86142/ (Finished) - This was a pretty fun read! I’m actually surprised since I didn’t expect that much. Was thinking about getting the second book as well, but I have too many other books in my backlog right now. I might pick it up in a month or two to see how I progressed in terms of reading ability and speed.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/5ac27bf352/ - I still have a couple of these in my backlog. Not as exciting as the Kirby book, to be honest. However, I do think this one is more useful to mine words from.
  • Some stuff on Wikipedia on the Japanese school system, inspired by all the school related stuff I’m currently reading and watching.

Listening

Stats wise not that impressive. It was a very busy week with some unexpected long hours (one day I was at work for 12 hours) and other stuff happening. In the past I’d probably drop the immersion and would only focus on Anki. I’m glad I actually did it the other way around this time! I basically dropped the new cards since Wednesday and only did my reviews while spending most of my hours on naturally using the language. If you think about it, at the end of the day SRS tools like Anki and just a tool to help you understand the language faster. When I learned English back in the days (it’s not my first language) it also just happened by constantly being exposed to the language. It didn’t happen by cramming random grammar rules and vocabulary.

With K-On I changed the way I do my listening a little bit. Before I just watched the episode looking up a word here and there if it stood out to me. This week I decided to make the listening a bit more intensive by repeating lines of dialogue more often to train my ears. It also helped that I found out that asbplayer is finally (ok, it has been for a while) available for my favorite browser, which makes doing lookups and making cards with Yomitan quite a bit easier!

This week looks to be a pretty normal one, so I want to continue building the consistency and get back on the planned schedule. Listening is currently the biggest problem I’m trying to solve. I’m thinking about doing one anime episode earlier during the day, so that I have less to do during the evening. Especially during a busy week like last week I notice I do still have the time to watch during the late evening, but I’d just feel too tired to actually pay attention. I hope by changing this up a bit I will be able to get more listening hours in.

I also forgot to post about the listening practice technique I mentioned last week. I promise I’ll get back to that this week!

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And here we are at the end of the first month already. Time is moving fast.
Let’s start with discussing the last week(+2):

Stats

Total hours: 22,5 (29,5)
Reading hours: 10 (14)
Listening hours: 6,5 (8)
Anki hours: 6 (7,5)
New Anki cards learned: 18 (24)

Reading

  • https://learnnatively.com/book/193bd403cc/ (Finished) - See below.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/35f36d23f4/ (Finished) - Kind of done with this. I’ll still finish the main series, since I only have two volumes left. It’s not bad, but I feel like previous volumes used to have more standout chapters. For the last couple of volumes they’ve just been… there I guess?
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/3024597415/ (Finished) - Quite a bit harder due to lack of furigana. Love the atmosphere. I do hope this manga will have some kind of overarching storyline, which it does seem to have based on the final couple of chapters.
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/007a4af210/ - The last two volumes, nearly there!
  • https://learnnatively.com/book/5ac27bf352/ - Didn’t progress that much. Just slowly moving through it.
  • I started going through kokugobunpou again. I think I have read everything on this site before in the past, but it’s always nice to go through it again. A lot of the concepts in kokugo remind me of the way Cure Dolly (RIP, she was truly by far the best English source for Japanese grammar) explained the language. Anyway, this is a great chance of pace from reading manga and novels.

Listening

Recovered a bit from last week. Reading is going pretty well, but listening and new Anki cards are still things I struggle with. There are probably several reasons for this.

For listening, I mainly tend to do that in the evening, which seems like the main issue. I already don’t really love listening as much as I do reading, but then also plan it at the end of my day when my energy levels are at their lowest. Often I just feel tired during the second episode of a show and decide to call it a night after that. So how will I be able to get more listening in? I might want to try actively listen to podcasts more during the day to get my hours up. Currently the lunch break or the time between finishing work and dinner seem like prime candidates for that. I also might want to plan the listening I do in the evening an hour earlier, but I’d have to give that some time. Currently I am still enjoying the last weeks of longer days by going outside after dinner, since sunset is getting earlier by the day. It won’t be too long until it’s dark at dinner time again. I’d not be surprised if I’d automatically move up watching the shows by an hour or more at that time. So for now I’ll leave that as it is and see how it evolves with the days getting shorter.

As for the new Anki cards, this is also a mixture of two issues. The first one is that I’m just really lazy at creating new cards. My main source of new cards is reading and to not break the flow I highlight potential words to mine. However, I always forget to go through them until it’s basically too late to spend time creating the cards and I’ll postpone it. The other issue I have is that I do my Anki in small sets throughout the day, which works pretty well overall. But when I do run short on time I tend to skip doing new cards in favor of listening for example. The fix for this is to plan the new cards before the reviews in Anki. But that requires me to always have the required number of cards ready in the morning. So in the end it all comes down to finding a good rhythm of creating new cards daily so that the required amount are ready each morning.

Overall it was a pretty good week and a good closer for the first month.

Monthly stats:

Total hours: 97:39

Reading hours: 43:15
Listening hours: 27:17
Anki hours: 27:07
New Anki cards learned: 95

Average reading hours p/d: 1:26
Average listening hours p/d: 0:54
Average Anki hours p/d: 0:54
Average new Anki cards p/d: 3.17

Nearly 100 hours! That’s pretty good for a first month. These stats make it pretty clear that reading is doing the heavy work and that listening is a bit lacking compared to my initial plans. I’ve stated in a couple of these posts that I want to try some more advanced study techniques, but I don’t feel like the time is right for them yet. These first couple of months should be for creating a habit and a rhythm that I currently don’t feel I have yet. Once I feel card creation and listening are locked in I’ll start thinking about adding more advanced studying techniques. For now my focus should just be on spending lots of hours and getting the basics right.

This month I want to up the stakes a little bit. Let’s try to get the total to 110 hours, mainly by upping my listening hours. To do this I want to pass the 1:30 and 1:00 average reading and listening hours p/d. I’ll finish the main Takagi series and will pick up some new shorter ones or one offs. I also want to mix up the manga reading some more by maybe doing two at a time. I might join the easy light novel book club that is coming up later this month as well. Oh, and I should finally get an avatar this month too, haha.

Let’s see how far we can go this month (within limits of course! Don’t want to burn out ;))! If I can get my routine down this month I can focus on some more interesting study techniques in November. :slight_smile:

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Was not feeling well this week, so I didn’t do that much.

Stats

Total hours: 11
Anki hours: 4:42
Listening hours: 1:10
Reading hours: 5:05
New Anki cards learned: 6

Reading

Listening

Not much to say. I didn’t feel that great since Thursday, but still managed to mainly do some reading every day, which is good!

I’ve been getting back into it today and actually finished the last volume of からかい上手の高木さん a couple of hours ago. That one was so much better than the previous bunch! Some parts of the depiction of the final chapter I liked more in the anime, but overall I loved how multiple chapters worked towards the final moment. Maybe some day when I get nostalgic I’ll pick up the follow up series or one of the offshoot manga. Also started the manga for また、同じ夢を見ていた today. Like I said before: I have already read the novel in the past, but it will be nice to experience the story again in a more visual form.

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11 hours in a week doesn’t seem like “not that much”! It’s good study, all the more so if you’re not feeling well.
Hope you feel better soon.

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A bit late, but thanks! And indeed, I’m still happy I was able to spend some hours on Japanese that week. :slight_smile:

Stats

Total hours: 10
Anki hours: 3
Listening hours: 0
Reading hours: 7
New Anki cards learned: 0

Reading

Listening

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October is not starting how I hoped it would be, at least on the study side of things. I feel a bit lazy, I might have a small post-summer ‘depression’ with the days becoming shorter so fast now and the sun showing itself less and less. During the weekend I was busy with a lot of life stuff, which is awesome! Unfortunately the downside of this is that I can’t use the weekend to catch up either. I’m still happy I was able to put in an hour a day of reading on average! Let’s see how the upcoming week unfolds.

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I dropped the novel pretty fast, but the manga looks cute. Maybe I’ll read it someday just to have the basic plot. Cool to know about

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Belated welcome to the learning log crew :raised_hands:

I just stumbled across this and was wondering whether you are aware of https://jpdb.io/ or https://jiten.moe/ where you get pre-made decks for SRS learning from books, mangas or VN stories. I didn’t know of this before and am playing around with JPDB for the last couple of months now; but heard that maybe JITEN is better if you want to keep ANKI :thinking:

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