That would be appreciated! You can just DM me.
Hmm, ok from looking at the tags I got the impression a big bunch of them is more like trigger warnings, e.g. “Graphic Violence”, “Child Abuse”, “Animal Cruelty” and the like.
Yes, I think triggers should be mentioned even if they are just present in a small fraction of the whole thing. That’s how I am approaching the whole “tags” business atm.
Could it be as simple as making the tags something like “Content Warning: Explicit Drug Use,” “Content Warning: Major Character Death,” etc? and then in the description, “There are one or more scenes featuring [content] in this work. Content warnings are a bit different from other tags as they are not intended to be thematic indicators. If [content] is a major feature or theme of the work, please be sure to use the regular tag without preceding ‘Content Warning’ as well.”
I tend to think that now we have tags we can do away with the manual content warnings. Ex: I asked Brandon to tag at least two works on this site due to disturbing themes (both nonfiction works fwiw), but now that I can tag them it doesn’t really feel necessary.
I’m pro ‘all tags in the tag bag’ and no demarcation between genre, theme, or content warnings. Let people decide for themselves what things they wish to filter on.
Agree with this. JKハルは異世界で娼婦になった | L28 for instance is incredibly sexually explicit, but I would not call it “pornographic” and would not tag it as such.
A “Porn” genre tag could make sense for stuff that’s actually just porn, but that doesn’t replace “Adult Content” as a content tag.
Can we consider more genres for non fiction? Such as travel guides, cookbooks, etc?
Wouldn’t that be a content tag instead? But yes, those sound relevant.
I, too, would put genre as non-fiction and then content travel or cooking etc.
If the content tag is not there, feel free to add it
Putting non-fiction as a genre would imply that we’re only allowed 2 genres- fiction and non-fiction, though wouldn’t it? Why does fiction get the honor of diversity?
Because the tags were originally imported from another site that has (almost) no non-fiction and we couldn’t come to a consensus as to what should be a genre and what a content tag, so genre tags were frozen and only content tags can still be added.
So we won’t change it because we won’t change it and this other site is like this?
Not that natively has to be like the other site.
Not quite. There were discussion about merging contents and genre tags together (and making everything just “tags”) or adding more genre (the thing you are talking about), but those discussion came to a deadlock and were judged not priority anyway.
So, it’s more in limbo than a firm “won’t change”.
By the way, can you see/use unapproved genre tags (e.g., political and social sciences, humanities, etc)?
While my initial reaction was also “Isn’t that just content, so it can be tagged as such?”, after thinking a bit I can see the point of having non-fiction genres as genre tags. In fiction it’s nice to get a super quick feel for the type of book by looking at the genre tags, so… why should that only stay limited to fiction?
The only thing I’d be worried about is that the non-fiction genres would be the resulting number of genre tags. With fiction there seems to be a relatively limited number of “top-level” genres - is it the same for non-fiction? Are there non-fiction genre lists that aren’t just “here are the 9 most popular non-fiction genres”?
I can see them as content tags, but they don’t appear to me as genre tags.
That’s… weird. That could be a bug.
If you add one (just to try) does it goes under genre or contents?
(You can remove it afterwards)
Yes, I think something mostly based on how libraries and bookstores are set up would probably work nicely. To frankenstein some lists I found,
- Computer Science
- Encyclopedias
- Journalism/News
- Philosophy
- Self Help
- Religion/Spirituality
* Social Sciences/Politics - Business and Economics
- Science
- Medicine, Health, & Fitness
- Popular Science (for psuedoscience or lay people aimed books)
- Technology/Engineering
- Architecture
- DIY
- Art
- Crafting
- Gardening
* History - Geography
- Travel Guides
* Biographies
* Autobiographies/Memoirs - Culture
- Food, Drink, & Cooking (could cover cookbooks)
- Parenting and Family or Raising (there are a lot of “How to raise a kitten” type books in Japan)
- Textbooks/Study Aids (these make up such a significant portion of Japanese bookstores)
* Essay
Humor would fall under comedy I think, which should already exist for fiction
Edit: Crossed out all the existing ones
You have history twice, by the way.
My bad, I misremembered from yesterday it does go under genre.
I think non-fiction genre tags would be very helpful.
For instance, there’s currently a “Religion” content tag, but the description of it is written in a way that clearly seems like it’s describing a genre rather than content (“Centers on the belief that humanity is related to supernatural, transcendental, and spiritual elements”). Currently it’s used to tag a bunch of fantasy light novels and manga - I don’t think that’s what someone looking for books on, say, Shinto would be expecting. Same with something like the “History” content tag - “History” as a genre vs “History” as a content tag are two very different things.
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