🚩 Volumes 2+ | (はめふら) 乙女ゲームの破滅フラグしかない悪役令嬢に転生してしまった… 👸

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I already finished vol 2 which finally gave me some actual plot. :face_holding_back_tears: And interesting plot at that… :eyes: the only slight issue I have with Katharina is: how oblivious to other people’s feelings/interest can you be? surely there is a limit to airheadedness… :distorted_face:

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I started volume 2 last week, and I’m about 25% of the way through so far. The beginning was pretty fun, though I’m a bit sad so far that quite a bit of Katarina’s school life seems to be glossed over so far. I need social interaction with people not in her harem, I need social interaction with her harem, I need Katarina farming gardening on school grounds. It seems like the 主人公 might be being set up to join Katarina’s band of followers soon, and if so I hope she’s the last for a while; I want more character screen-time with the people we’ve already met.

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Ok, I tried learning from shitsurei and skimmed the recaps. It’s indeed a better reading experience, but I do feel guilty for not reading every word of the book.

Chapter 1

Otaku is an awesome update from a monkey girl. You’ve raised her right, A-chan.

頭が悪いというより興味がないことには打ち込めない性格のようなのだ。

Sorry, A-chan. If your friend can’t comprehend the concept of doing homework, correcting her behavior after being scolded or reading school materials for longer than 10 minutes, her 頭 is definitely 悪い. Lying about that doesn’t help anyone, girl. Embrace the reality.

…So a girl that forgets what she was told on the next day managed to study well enough to get admitted to the same high school as A-chan?
Was A-chan aiming really low or did the shows/mangas with the whole “failed to get into the same high school as my friends” trope lie to me about Japanese high school admittance difficulty?

That was so sadddd :sob::sob::sob:

…well hello, Sofia. I think you’ve just greatly moved up in the romance candidates race. It’s destiny now :sparkles:

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Re: chapter 1

Neither. As a parent who had a good look at those admission exams (helping my kids, because we live in Japan), I can assure you they are hard (well… the questions are not hard per se, but, for maths for instance, there’s always a trick that allows you to find the solution really quickly, while just basic solving is going to take too long for you to get to the end in the amount of time you have).
That’s just a way for the book to tell us that, if she felt like it, she could be good at it (but she typically doesn’t, and nothing you do is going to change that).

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Vol 2 chapter 2 until stars break (29%)

/on the subject of Katarina’s assumptions about Keith and MC meeting scene/
Pass!
Keith’s despair moment didn’t align well with my perception of “you’re siblings on paper, what did you expect?”

/On the subject of Katarina’s internal meeting and then later on the fact that she didn’t double check her notes before starting her Path To Doom Academy/
This chapter keeps on iterating my feelings from the previous chapter.
You can’t say that Katarina is smart “if she tries and is motivated” when she’s like this while trying not to die.
Come on, “she can learn if she’s motivated enough” - can we discuss her magic and swordsmanship? Is avoiding doom and death not motivating enough?
Again, author, embrace your dummies. Love the dummies. Accept she’s a dumdum, it’s okay, she’s cute, no need to pretend she’s someone she tangibly is not.

/On older students leaving student council/
ニコル is a succubus. He just seems innocent because he’s not expressive. Haha~

/On the subject of being banned from kitchen at home/
箱入りお嬢様も大変だ - frfr, just some small food experiments and ban is what you get? Poor baby

Jeez, even comonners don’t have a 3-second rule there, Katarina.
… I want those cookies and I want them now :sob:

/On the subject of ruined plot lines/
So Katarina, you stole Geordo’s scene here. And then you stole Keith’s event too.
But think of it like this: Maria would feed the love interest with food full of love. And she’s so lovely. …Katarina, choose her :sob:

/On the subject of love interests/
「私は、カタリナ様をお慕いしておりますわ」x 3
A beautiful all-girls harem is complete. 10/10.

私が男だったら
Nooooo
Don’t be like that, sister! If you see it you see, if you feel it you feel it! You can’t go “kind attentive wonderful, blushes around me, what a beauty” and then go “if I was a man”. Well, man up, sister, man up!

P.S. if she’s so straight and Keith is so out, we’re down to Nicole she almost doesn’t interact with and Geordo who’s actually invested. If we don’t meet any other guys like the student council president, the love interest will somehow be Geordo. Well. He’s working for it but… do you really want her, farming and all, as a crown princess?..

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Vol. 2, right after アラン's piano recital

Oh my gosh. :see_no_evil_monkey: I can’t believe メアリ’s been running a covert ops for years to prevent アラン from realizing his feelings for Katarina. :rofl: :rofl: You know, if this book weren’t bound by the limits of being a standard romance webnovel, it could have some really incredible character dynamics and relationships. You get a peek here, but it’s simply not enough for me.

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Vol 2, Finishing chapter 2 from the stars until the end

What a villainess potential, man.

Maria’s family got ruined and her friends stopped playing with her because of assumptions about her being noble’s bastard.

Then she comes to this school full of magic users hoping to find some friends, but now she’s hated because she a commoner.

If it wasn’t for Katarina’s endless casual kindness, how would this go? Would we see some “Maria, the Light Magic Commoner: I’m going to destroy this kingdom and rule in its ashes”? :joy_cat:

Also eefara’s “vol 2 after recital” got stored in my brain as “chapter 2 after recital” and I kept going “when?? In what page count??” haha.

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Vol 2 ch 4, after learning about ジオルド's concerns regarding the mean girls in the cafeteria (approx. 54%)

Can you imagine going to all the trouble of sacrificing someone to the dark gods or something, gaining the power to manipulate and control people without their knowledge, and you decide to risk all that going after Katarina of all people? Katarina, Miss “oh-I-bet-Maria-just-doesn’t-realize-all-the-boys-are-in-love-with-her-due-to-protagonist-blindess”? Miss “omg-my-friends-are-so-nice-defending-me-but-why-does-it-sound-like-I’m-being-insulted-somewhere?-don’t-worry-about-it”. I was considering for a bit whether Katarina’s isekai gave her dark magic powers, and that’s why she manages to charm everyone. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Vol 2, ch 4, after Sleeping Beauty awakens

So I heard you like character perspective changes all saying the same thing over and over again Kroki. :smirking_face: I pray for you as you go through every single harem member’s shocked pikachu face moment, haha.

Gotta say, I was not expecting the ghost of あっちゃん to show up and be the one to awaken Katarina; I figured either ジオルド would figure out who the dark magic user was and force him to wake Katarina, or they’d find マリア and should would cure Katarina. And speaking of シリウス, his “other self” who keeps telling him to do bad things should definitely meet up with the Council of Katarinas; I’m sure they’d all have a grand time.

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Vol 2, chapter 3

Awww we meet Maria’s mom and casually fix their relationship. That’s nice. Can we stumble upon her father next?

Katarina has 0 braincells. Her general behavior is identical to my cat. The scene where she’s genuinely confused as to why her mother is cross with her and no matter how long and extensive the explanation is, it doesn’t go inside that empty-empty head… Yeah, mid-chapter my cat also crawled behind the tv and couldn’t understand why I’m dragging her out, immediately trying to go there again. 0 learning ability. Cuties.

Alan: this is a love song

Katarina: oh, you love the person that inspired this?

Alan: 503 error, service unavailable

Because Mary was running interference all along! She’s doing way better than Geordo is lmao

I love Sofia, she’s so sweet. But she should go for Katarina herse-- well, hello. Seduction? In my HameFura? …and it went straight to the memories trash folder. Katarina, why…

Well, the school council president is creepy, sorry girls.

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God yessss. Oh, to be able to get a proper view on the rest of the characters…

I’m watching this thing right now, and it’s like seeing inside Geordo’s head (sorta, seems like the same character type, his introduction in episode one overlaps nicely with Geordo’s intro in vol 1). Instantly made Geordo more interesting for me here (even though he’s very bland this volume too so far - 46% in)

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I’m at 51% right now and I’m enyoing this volume so much more than the previous one.
It flows way better! Please please please stay good :folded_hands:

Learning feedback

So I did call vol 1 a novel-shaped SRS, and I have to say it works (as I was low-key dreading).
My comprehension is way higher than I’d expect from a ranobe without furigana or an audiobook. For those who don’t know, listening is my strongest part and kanji is the weakest.
I’m doing way less lookups because I seem to have finally learned to recognize the basic vocab words that the author uses a lot. It’s so nice to be able to go 2-3 mobile screens with no furigana/audiobook/lookup and still get all the kanji vocab.

It feels kinda very very cool.
Even though I still totally have those sentences where the text looks like this to me:

To [character]'s xxx he also xxx his xxx, and, as I was all sad, he was kind to xxx me with kind voice.

…It now looks like a spicy scene written by a 12 year old, but this is a real sentence I’m looking at right now lol and the vocab is not hard at all. I just don’t quite know it in kanji

Upd (I hit 3 consecutive posts so):

Vol 2, Chapter 4 (why so long?! This was the entire plot in one chapter)

The Damnation Event was so… Unexpectedly unplanned. Girls, come on? Fact-check?

Katarina’s friends: ok so this is weird, we didn’t expect, seems a bit suspicious

Katarina’s very limited narration: my friends were talking about something but whatever

How are you still alive, girl…

Maria. We don’t go alone anywhere. Maria??

I feel like during the event they said that proof papers were badly done and can’t actually place Katarina at doing anything, but now (later in the story) we’re saying it’s very well written? I’m gonna assume it’s detailed or something.

Magic explains why there was no fact-check, nice.

どうりでハイスペックな人気者であるはずだ。

And there we go, ladies and gentlemen. A character that seems too good to be true and not on the love interest list? A villain.

Katarina: Geordo told me there is black magic

Katarina: And now I remember than in the game there actually was black magic too.

Katarina’s lonely braincell: But game is different from reality, there might be no black magic after all! Phew, good, the villain must be a good guy after all.

All of this because she was nice to him and liked the tea he made. Boy, anything can be a trigger to someone. Yikes.

Bro is having a breakdown because someone kind exists in his vicinity and this stuff usually doesn’t end well for kind people so… Bottom line - I’m not into yandere.

Huh. I didn’t expect the white magic user to also be unable to wake her up. Oops.

The dread I felt when Geordo’s POV started with rehashing his relationship with Katarina…

:skull_and_crossbones::skull_and_crossbones::skull_and_crossbones:

But yeah, wasn’t as bad as I was bracing for. Maybe you prayers helped @eefara :folded_hands:

Ah, dammit, Sofia’s scene was so exciting but lazy writing of “everyone came over running to a girl’s room in dorms separated by gender” dropped me straight out of the scene. What a pity, it was so emotional​:sob:

Awesome job, Acchan :pleading_face::sob:

Ok, ladies, let’s normalize killing husbands instead of mistresses…

かなり楽天的なアホ

That she is! Bot a saint, no.

Well, this ended very nicely, all things considered.

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Here, you can post again!

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And… done~

This was way better than vol 1 (though it set the bar so low it’s not a high praise :joy:). I wonder if the editor changed or if the publisher allowed us to see a realtime improvement in the author’s writing abilities by not editing anything at all.

Anyhow, my complaints about writing style were quite fixed this time around.

End of book feelings

This is kind of nostalgic now. I’m feeling a bit sad about the book coming to an end. It was fun despite my complaints about the writing style.

This is a very weak harem ending. If the next book starts with her meeting a guy she actually likes I’d go “yeah, makes sense” and accept it.

We see that everyone loves her and wants to be with her forever, but she doesn’t have any romantic feelings towards anyone here AT ALL, so…

So Geordo thinking how he’ll “let” it be as-is “for now” is so full of himself :slight_smile:

It’s funny how I have warm feelings for it overall, but Katarina herself is not someone I’d root for or understand romantic attraction to. She’s a great friend tho, as a person? /salvaging as I can

My overall feelings about Katarina

Now that she finally was listening to what people are saying:

  • “I don’t have a man I like, I’m only interested in you and always being with you” + she knows this is what the MC says to her chosen love interest

  • “I will make her MY wife” says Geordo, what’s there to misunderstand

  • “You will be away and miss so much compared to the others” (Katarina, if you don’t understand, you can ask. Assuming that this is bro-con time when you don’t understand 90% of the sentences is just… no)

This has officially crossed obliviousness and went straight for “incapable of comprehending human speech”.

Which also explains everything else! Her forgetting what her teachers/mom in last life/mother in this one/tutors in this one are telling her. Ignoring conversations happening in front of her, not being able to understand words on a very basic level and connecting them to what the other people mean when they say… anything, really… The narration is very honest with “I tried my best to think” and '“I don’t understand anything”, it just took me a while to understand.

It’s cute and she’s kind, but overall she’s closer to an elementary school girl…

…So I got “an ick” when Geordo tried to kiss her while she was standing there with no idea he had any thoughts like this, wasn’t blushing/interested/anything, with no leading to it AND while his feelings are clearly 100% unrequited. Like bro, are you into that?..

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