終わり Week 10 of 木洩れ日に泳ぐ魚 ✋ 🫧

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Welcome to the final week of 木洩れ日に泳ぐ魚!

We are following the below schedule (page counts may vary based on your medium):

Week Starting Date Chapters Pages
Week 1 July 17 1 and 2 ~20
Week 2 July 24 3 and 4 ~22
Week 3 July 31 5 and 6 ~21
Week 4 August 7 7 and 8 ~22
Week 5 August 14 9 and 10 ~21
Week 6 August 21 11 and 12 ~22
Week 7 August 28 13 and 14 ~22
Week 8 September 4 15, 16, 17, 18 ~43
Week 9 September 11 19, 20, 21, 22 ~45
Week 10 September 18 23, 24, 25, 26 ~42
Week 8 September 4 15, 16 and 17 ~32
Week 9 September 11 18, 19 and 20 ~33
Week 10 September 18 21,22 and 23 ~33
Week 11 September 25 24, 25 and 26 ~32

:policeman: Law and Order :policewoman:

  • Any reveals, for the current chapters must be behind spoilers or detail curtains. When we get further in you don’t need to hide details that were revealed in previous chapters.
  • Questions on vocab, grammar, nuance, and the like are both welcome and encouraged. If you’re not sure if it’s a spoiler, assume it is and use one of the above options to hide the text.
  • You are encouraged to speculate and guess wildly
  • Be kind about other peoples’ wild guesses :sparkling_heart:
  • Even if you don’t read the chapter(s) in time, you are still encouraged to post in the thread for that reading once you have finished it. I advise not reading ahead in the threads as you may see spoilers.

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Are you finishing 木洩れ日に泳ぐ魚 ?

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Happy sleuthing! :male_detective:


I finished the book, and I’m not sure how I feel about it. I expected there being no resolution, to be honest, but until the last minute I kept hoping for some final twist. I thought I would be horribly disappointed if it ended like this, but there was in fact a very nice, refreshing feeling in her leaving that apartment behind, and realizing there’s more to this world than the private little prison they had built for themselves. I would be happy for her at that point, but then she started digging, and I thought we’d get another flashback or something (why does she dig so much?), and I was sure there were a few pages more but it was in fact the 解説, and then it ended.

So this wasn’t really a mystery after all, but a forbidden love story. There were mystery elements for sure, but in the end, that man died because he was unlucky and a little stupid in how he handled the situation, if Aki’s theory is even correct (when they started talking about suicide I thought they might entertain the idea that he jumped, but no). They could all have been happy if things had gone a little differently, like in Aki’s daydream. Although in that case, they wouldn’t be free of each other, and would keep suffering. A man died to set them free, so they can continue with their lives, I guess.


I also, have mixed feelings.

I’m not gonna lie, when things started to wrap up looking soft and peaceful I started rooting for murder or double suicide. Then in the final scene for her to dig up the bones of a child. I’m a bad person who wants bad endings :speak_no_evil:

Yeah, I agree. Nothing was really solved, so it definitely doesn’t have the satisfaction of a mystery novel and there are no pieces to fit together, just speculation to twist endlessly.

That said, incredibly smooth and easy read, and held my interest throughout.


How cool would that have been! I’m a bad person too :smiling_imp:


Well, that didn’t feel like a mystery by the end but I agree it had a strangely refreshing feel! How funny. Although I enjoyed it I will probably give Onda a little break, since I do like endings that tie things up a little more neatly.

Looking forward to medium now (not least because I nominated it) because I have heard that it is very satisfying :grin:


I gotta say, I don’t think I would have read this book if I knew the genre wasn’t really mystery. I was hoping for a really satisfying final twist at the end, but I guess that was not where we were going. The story wasn’t bad or anything, but reading with the wrong expectations made the ending feel like a bit of a letdown. Also, I agree with the comments above about wanting a darker and more dramatic ending.


Yes, the book wasn’t quite what I thought it would be… Not much sleuthing really, since the ambiguities and uncertainties we all discussed earlier were never resolved.


I wonder about the choice of cover. How does it connect to the story? Why not go with the obvious (and beautiful) imagery of the title? :thinking:


It feels a bit Lady Macbeth, washing your hands of a crime! Interestingly, the English cover does feature fish so it is more literal.


This is what I had been thinking as well. But what crime? The man’s death? The desire for incest? Was there even a crime after all?

By the way, speaking of crimes, I now remembered how it crossed my mind that the twin sister’s death might not have been an accident. There were several moments when Aki mentioned Hiro’s darker side, and there was this brief violent outburst that surprised even him. What if he killer her and doesn’t remember? What if he killed his father too, and doesn’t remember? They both fell to their death, after all. Were we supposed to wonder about that? It was never made explicit.

Back to the cover, I remember from the Eugenia 後書き that Onda had basically decided on all details of the cover herself (I thought it’s normally the publisher who’s in charge of such decisions?). If this is the case for all her books, there must be some special reason for choosing this particular image.


Haha indeed, ‘what crime’ is the real mystery here! If she did choose this cover then I would be curious to understand why.

It’s interesting you picked up on the parallels between the cousin’s death and the father’s death - I really was expecting it to be a case of the ‘twins’ pushing their cousin in the hole, and that’s why they were separated. It could be a classic childish ‘you can’t play with us’ gone very dark.


Yes, that’s what I feel too. Who is Aki really? Is she the twin or the cousin? Did somebody kill the little girl? If so, who? Did somebody kill the man? If so, who?

For the cover, initially I thought the hand is a sign of rejection, like :raised_hand:. What does it reject? Love? Passion? The relationship between the two?
But looking closer I noticed the bubbles. Do they wash the hand (in innocence)? Does this indicate there is actually a crime?
Or does the hand show us the bubbles? Saying that everything is vain, fleeting, bound to end? Which was a major theme of Aki’s reflections in the last chapters.
Then again, these reflections feel somehow cathartic for Aki, allowing her to go out and discover the world outside of the little room. Is the soap a symbol of this catharsis?


I just wanted to say this is a very beautiful post :face_holding_back_tears: I really like your interpretation.


Actually, when he briefly became violent towards Aki, what did Hiro do? He didn’t hit her or anything, he just shoved her, right? He shoved her and she fell down. And we have two other people around him who were killed by falling. This can’t be a coincidence. We’re at the very least supposed to think he may have killed all three, aren’t we? I’m very surprised Aki didn’t go there.

Is this a man’s hand on the cover, do you think? Or is it unclear? I like @nikoru 's catharsis interpretation. If it’s a man’s hand though, maybe it’s the hand that shoved people to their death? :thinking:


I don’t have the book at hand but I thought he slapped her… :thinking:


I checked and you’re right. At the start of chapter 22 she says 彼に張り倒された時、私は奇妙なデジャ・ビュを見ていた。And later 私はじんじんする頬の痛みを感じながら、畳の上に転がっていた。
I had focused on the 倒された part, and that she fell on the floor, but it was a slap. The theory may still work, but it’s a little less convincing. There is this デジャ・ビュ though…


I was somewhat disappointed by the ending. It’s not bad, but it didn’t really feel like a proper resolution, especially since we’re apparently just supposed to take Aki’s theories as the truth. It did end on a nice and refreshing new start kind of feeling though, so there is that.

I feel like we didn’t get enough proof for that? But I do like that interpretation more than the ending we actually got, so I’m just going to be like those two and accept one possible explanation as the truth, even though I have no evidence for it.

For all that I complain about some parts, I really enjoyed this book and am looking forward to reading more of 恩田陸’s works.


Phew, finally got around to finishing this book! Now that my new job is starting to calm down hopefully I’ll be able to get back to keeping up with books here.

I read a few week’s worth on my own so here are some overall thoughts:

I agree with the general sentiment from commenters here for the past few weeks.

I had expectations that this was mainly a mystery, so I held out until the end about things being tied up in a neat, tidy way (maybe in part since I’m not familiar with this author’s other works).

I was also very thrown off by the wild theories from Aki that they just moved on from lol

But I did enjoy how the story slowly unfolded through flashbacks from the two switching back and forth and continuously wanted to know more about their relationship so I did enjoy it.