I read the two currently published volumes of フツーと化け物 | L24??. I guess one of the reasons why I don’t enjoy yuri is because I read stuff with eff’d up characters. That being said, it’s not bad. I do like the premise (spoiler for like, the first 3 pages of content: one character is a “monster” in the metaphorical sense, the other is a literal one, hiding in plain sight by wearing a literal human skin; spoiler for volume 1: I don’t know if I would actually call it romance, the monster girl needs a new skin because her current one is rotting out, the human one promises to give her hers in exchange for learning how to be a normal human being; monster girl (?) agrees but is having a rough time so things drag on and shenanigans ensue), but it’s weird to drag it out. I feel like it would have worked well as a standalone, so I was a bit surprised to see a second volume… and even more surprised when I reached the end and was met with a cliffhanger.
Oh, I remember this being nominated for the yuri club and being interested. Messed up characters you say… 
Wishlisted
Yes, I was thinking of mentioning that it could be your thing 
I hold no responsibility if it isn’t, though. No return no exchange no refund.
I mean plenty of that exists… For example: https://www.reddit.com/r/yuri_manga/s/szP54fv1hI (a long list of toxic yuri)
I can add some recs and/or “I hated this but you might like it” titles, later/tomorrow if you want.
So those are stuff I should not read then? 
But yes, there’s a lot.
What yuri have you actually read though? Your list shows precisely zero yuri manga (major elements only), meaning any you’ve read aren’t popular enough to have been tagged as yuri.
Oh sry I thought you were saying you wanted stuff with effed up characters. If you don’t want that, the list of recs is like miles longer
I don’t know about major elements, but
裏世界ピクニック | L33 私の推しは悪役令嬢。 | L33 アステリズムに花束を 百合SFアンソロジー | L35 feel yuri-ish (edit: and all have eff’d up characters). I also read a few more short stories here and there, but I actually liked those.
I don’t typically read yuri manga, since in most cases I can’t shake the male gaze/fan service impression, but フツーと化け物 was fine on that front.
I guess that impression comes mostly from the manga collection of someone I dated back in the days (those manga were in French though, so I wouldn’t add them here, even if I remembered the titles)
I remember ppl complaining about the SF one barely having any yuri, but the first 2 are solidly yuri! They just didn’t show up when filtering, cuz LNs, not manga
I have no idea what manga you’re thinking of, but there’s plenty of yuri manga at this point that don’t have that issue, fwiw
That was me, I will inspect the toxic Yuri list 
Lmk if you find anything good, and like I said, I can throw in some of my own if you want
Ah, my point wasn’t just that they are yuri, but that they have eff’d up characters.
Not exactly what I had in mind, but よくわからないけれど異世界に転生していたようです | L26 would be an example. It doesn’t have the yuri tag, but the main character likes women (and apparently meets some, but I didn’t read past the volumes I got for free).
Let me try my luck looking through the covers on Natively and see if I find something familiar looking.
Edit: decided to go to MyAnimeList so I can search by date, and I found one (1)!
Edit2: I remember another one actually had a futanari as love interest/main character and was pretty ecchi. Not sure I’ll ever find it (nor really care about finding it).
Edit3: oh, found another one, kinda. The main romance is straight, though? Still, MAL put it in the yuri list, so I will count it. The cover tells you all you need to know about the “plot”.
Aaaand another one. The person I was dating even had a figurine of the main character (also I remember being incapable of following the plot; but now that I think about it, it’s more a straight romance with a lesbian character on the side):
Edit4: last one, since I just remembered it:
That one did not get the Girls love tag (or… any tag for that matter), but it is yuri. Main character is a devil who falls in love with an angel and it’s kinda cute but there’s a lot of skin being shown and they are 13.
Ohhh I see. Yeah you have a point there
Ahh yeah that’s like glaringly obvious from the cover (and even moreso from the sample on Amazon)
I kinda wanna tag it as a Minor element, but I feel weird tagging something I’m totally unfamiliar with
As for the others you linked - yeah those seem like a far cry from anything I’ve read, and tbh I practically thought the first two were covers for エロゲー / 美少女ゲーム. I can certainly see why they’d give that association
“My master” (Kore ga Watashi no Goshujinsama) is particularly frustrating in that regard in the sense that it will be insanely ecchi in the situations, but the character never go one step further and have sex (or even, just start a relationship). Like, it doesn’t have to happen on screen (or page, I guess), but it’s just unnatural for people to stop there and then resume a normal behavior during the next chapter (because the plot is pretty episodic, if memory serves). Either commit to the concept or don’t go there. /rant
Yeah, I guess that past experience might have put a strong bias. I actually have bought ラブ・バレット 1 MFC | L26 because of the yuri thread, so hopefully this one will be better. I also got 〆切前には百合が捗る | L28 and 明日の世界で星は煌めく | L27 because of thanks to your recommendations.
I’m kinda skeptical of that one personally, but will give it a try when the yuri club does it
Hope you enjoy 
Reminds me I need to get started on the next volume of 明日の世界で sometime soon. Maybe I should just try it audio-only, and see how it goes…
Ah, well, I’ll keep my expectations low then
Well your problem seems to be basing your view of the genre on 20 year old manga.
Well, I did enjoy it, so there’s that! My only issue with the plot is that literally everyone is taking homosexual relationships for granted (as in, they are beyond tolerated, nobody thinks anything about them) which clashes pretty hard against my experience of real life, but sure, whatever, that sounds nice at least.
Heh, fair. At the same time, I still typically see them marketed as shonen or seinen, and that’s never reassuring. That being said, last two I just read were seinen and they were fine, so there’s that.
Somehow I didn’t think they were going for realistic tho 
Personally I often prefer settings where it’s just taken for granted. Life is annoying enough about that, why do I need it in my manga too? (I’m a bit of an escapist reader tho).
Not 100% sure what that means, but there’s all of 2 yuri magazines (Yurihime and Galette), so that may just be a natural consequence of where the series are being published? Idk that I’d read too much into it
They kinda are, though. It’s the year 2023 in world, and they are in a real place. And I can assure you that in 2023 in that area (or, Japan in general), it was not like that. Thinking about it, I feel like it’s the date more than anything, but also the fact that “compatibility” between potential lovers is important in world, but the potential backlash (e.g. from internalized homophobia, or just from being straight) is not even mentioned. It’s annoying because it breaks the in-word consistency.
I’m fine with that too, but not at the cost of consistency. That being said, my own escapism is to read about people overcoming those odds instead.
I mean, yes, and that also means that the editors will keep the target audience in mind. If selling to guys is what brings money to allow the magazine to survive, I guess that’s what they’ll do. Can’t blame them for that, but it also makes me suspicious.
That being said, that’s the point of something like Natively. I can just check what others have liked
