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If I’m aiming for growth (like French currently) I set slightly aggressive goals - ones I think I can hit with effort. If I’m maintaining (like Japanese now) I set goals that reflect what I figure will be enough to not backslide.

Reach for the stars goals I mentally write off and don’t even try for, but slightly hard goals that seem reachable make me work.

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I guess this was an invitation to not say so :innocent:

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Considering my long-term goal is to read books in Korean like a high-school-educated native, I’d say that’s pretty pie in the sky. Looks like I’ll have to achieve a vocabulary of 50-60,000 words. I’m currently a little over 30k. I can get there in 3 years if I maintain my pace. Unlikely…

My goal before that was to achieve 99% word comprehension of all Higashino Keigo books. I set that goal when I had 97% comprehension on his books, at the beginning of this year. I now have an average of 99.3% comprehension over the books of his that are in kimchi reader.

I have another, less specific goal related to crime scene board games. I want to have 100% comprehension of my character book, the evidence cards, etc, when I play, so that I can be fully engaged in the game. And understand people when they talk over each other, argue, etc. I’ve come a lot closer to that over nearly 3 years as I’ve played a ton of those games, read a bunch of mystery novels, and learned loads more words.

So yeah, unrealistic I think lol

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I think you can totally do it though, your learning pace is incredible.

That’s also one of my goals. I honestly feel that’s the ultimate listening test lol.

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I’m curious about the results, as most people said slightly lower for now (including me). Personally, I used to set more ambitious goals when I was younger and actively studying Japanese for example (eg. for the N3). Nowadays, my goals are mostly related to reading (more ‘passive’ study or just maintaining my current level) and I just have other priorities in life, so I tend to set my expectations lower to make sure I actually have a chance to meet them.

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I sandbag my goals so I can blow past them. Once I’m excited by my progress and get a feel of how much I can do with how much effort, then I make stretch goals (which are probably everyone else’s normal to ambitious goals). I have had too many times of setting incredibly lofty goals, inevitably failing at them, and then just being mean to myself about it.

Now I set my goals as low as I can where I don’t think I’d be embarrassed if I wanted to tell someone what my goal was when I accomplished it, and feel great when I blast through them.

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How did you read my mind? I do the exact same thing, I don’t like having crazy goals, my “goal” is a good baseline I’m not embarrassed about, but I generally go way over it. However I have no way of predicting when I’ll get really into it or I’ll have more time, so I stay very safe when setting them. “Stretch” goals are explicitly very loose and stretchy too, it’s more like an idea. Otherwise I get wayyy too anxious hahaha

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Other: I don’t study.

Pretty much copy and paste what @mic said. I would like to study more explicitly, but it’s just not feasible right now.

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Do you live in a country with more than 1 official language?

  • Yes, and I am fluent in all of them.
  • Yes, and I am fluent in all of them. I am also fluent in at least 1 other (not official) language.
  • Yes, and I am fluent in more than 1 but not all.
  • Yes, and I am fluent in more than 1 but not all. I am also fluent in at least 1 other (not official) language.
  • Yes, but I am only fluent in 1.
  • Yes, but I am only fluent in 1. However, I am also fluent in at least 1 other (not official) language.
  • No, but I am fluent in more than 1 language.
  • No, and I am fluent in only 1 language.
0 voters

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Interesting question :eyes:
Spain has 1 official language and 5 co-official languages. I only speak Spanish - but then again I live in Madrid where it is the only spoken language. I don’t know if I would have learnt the regional language if I’d gone to live in a different region, but I don’t think it very likely.

Edit: well, I don’t only speak Spanish, but I don’t think this question is about languages other than the ones of the country?

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Germany has areas in Brandenburg and Saxony where there are two official languages, namely Sorbian apart from German. But as far as the whole country is concerned, Sorbian is only an officially recognized minority language, together with four others. So, I guess I should choose one of the No-options.

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Yes this is misleading, as if this were true, the option: No (there is only one official language), but I speak more than one (of the country’s official languages) is impossible.

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It is. Are not all answer options showing to everyone? :thinking:


the ones marked with blue are about knowing languages that are not official languages in your country. :thinking:

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Oooh, see I thought this:
Yes, but I am only fluent in 1. However, I am also fluent in at least 1 other (not official) language.

Meant “I am also fluent in 1 other language of the country I live in, but that language is not recognised as an official language”

I don’t know why that was the first thing my brain went to, now that I see it written it is very convoluted :sweat_smile:
I’ll change my answer

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I am not a native English speaker, so there might also have been a better way to phrase what I was trying to get at. :see_no_evil: While I am fluent in English, my turn of phrase is not always 100% natural. :sob:

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No no, I think it’s clear enough, I was just focused on the difference between official languages and non official languages, since regional languages in Spain (most of them) are official, while regional languages in France aren’t.
But anyway. I’m also not a native English speaker (hence the answer), so I understand the struggle with turns of phrases :grin:

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My answer for goals is “I mostly don’t”… I did set some yearly goals in 2024 (very vague) and 2025 (somewhat more concrete)… But most couldn’t really be considered “study” goals, and the ones that could (get comfortable with L27+ fantasy manga, watch more L34+ anime, etc) are very broad and vague

2025 goals (Update 1)

Otherwise I tend to just set short-term smaller goals, in an improvised manner, based on whatever has my attention at that moment. And those can vary anywhere btwn “bare minimum” (read 1 article/page a day), realistic (read 5 physical manga a month), and “pie in the sky” (falling to think of an example rn). Also they’re subject to change or be discarded (or forgotten about) at will. That’s true of my big goals too tho.

I guess generally if I’m assuming for a new habit, I tend to low-ball it, bc forming habits is not my strong point; nor is estimating available time & energy (I think I have more than I do)

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Am I fluent in Japanese? I continue to move those goalposts :joy:

Anyway, I said I’m fluent in only 1 of the 2 official languages here.

Fwiw, native English speaker, and the question wording was clear and not unnatural to me.

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I tend to adjust my goals over time. I try to set Slightly lower to Slightly higher goals at first, then I raise or lower them depending on how I do over time.

Sometimes that results in me basically dropping a goal because I just can’t stick with it. I did this for years with Anki (try to start it, drop it because I couldn’t stick with it, repeat) before finally getting into a groove with it this year.

Other times it causes me to go way overboard as I keep raising the bar on myself. Last year “read at least 1 page in Japanese every day starting in March” eventually turned into “Read 20,000 pages in Japanese this year” because I just kept raising the goalposts. I still did it though. :joy:.

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If it’s any consolation, that’s how I interpreted it at first as well.

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