@brandon So scratch that, I’m now getting “time read” (watched) kind of activity just from marking a show completed (from watching) on the season page. It’s only one activity this time, but it’s still confusing and misleading. I most certainly did not watch 13 episodes all today, but since I don’t track episodes as I’m going (just like I don’t track pages in a book as I’m going) I get weird activity. Is this a bug? I feel it should only show episode/time information if I explicitly mark episodes watched, not from the auto-episode watched stuff that happens when you complete a show. Am I wrong?
I don’t know if that’s the intended behavior of the code, but I agree that’s what it should be
I do think though that if you use the ‘update progress’ dialogue, I’ll probably generate that activity, but for every other update (‘basic info’, simple toggle), I agree I should just say ‘finished’.
That makes sense! Do you want a formal write up for this one?
That’d be lovely, thanks
Done!
I must say, I’m a bit surprised this ticket only has 3 votes
I was planning to do this as a quick win and to help outreach with Korean. I already had to build out the infrastructure for checking if a site had a book or not for Korean, so would be easy.
Would it not impact how you use Natively much?
I think most people probably buy from just one or two book providers. In my case, I only buy ebooks from Amazon, which is obviously already linked to. And I buy physical books from CD Japan, but I tend to still keep my wish list on Amazon anyway. So it wouldn’t impact how I personally use Natively. But if it’s easy maybe it’s still worth it?
I just gave it a 4th
I’ve never come across it before. Maybe similar for others.
Relatedly, it would be convenient to auto-populate Audible links. Not sure if it strictly fits with the original request, but it seems close with
Right, that would be in the mix too
Unfortunately I don’t think that the more popular audiobook.jp has public facing pages I can see, so they probably aren’t an option.
No? I came across a book that was not available on the ebook platform I use (booklive) only once, and that was before using Natively, so I never even thought about it.
Edit: I can’t read
Ah, that’s too bad. That is something I would care about.
Edit: Well, at least you can use the search link. I don’t know if they have a limit on requests per second?
E.g. https://www.audible.co.jp/search?keywords=コップクラフト
and then parse the page?
that’s audible, not audiobook.jp? Audible I already have access to via the amazon api.
Oops, I can’t read. Somehow my brain went for audible.
So if you implement the functionality, I will be able to search for stuff that are on audible?
Edit: audiobook.jp has a search too, though.
https://audiobook.jp/search?q=パノラマ島奇譚
It seems to return stuff even when not related, though
Yep! I actually pull the audible link from the amazon product page (ex: コップクラフト).
However, it looks like we only have 1060 books with audible in our database right now… with 521 being unique series. So not that many. I think audiobook.jp has a ton more. Still, easy to add as it’s already in our db!
Edit: Wait, i did not find that audiobook.jp search page, whoa. That may be doable then!
Sadly I think Audible’s library is larger, although a great deal is region locked
That’s the links from the Natively book page to the Amazon/whatever book page, right? I buy physical books, so I end up keeping a wishlist of books separately and then buying them from Amazon/cdjapan/Kinokuniya in bulk. I guess in theory if I kept my wishlist on Natively it might be convenient, but at the moment it’s too common that Natively doesn’t have the book listed for me to want to do that.
Yes, I found that last night. I put in an “add volumes” request for the missing book (which is on Amazon, just not in the series data there).
I wonder what the right thing to do is if Amazon’s series data has a gap in the numbering like it does here…
I think that only triggers an automatic check of the list, so I don’t think it would work here
I don’t know if there’s a way to fix the amazon list, but otherwise, to fix it on the natively side, just use the feedback button on the series page (just below the add volumes one)
The ‘add volumes’ form has a free-text Notes box, so if it’s purely automatic and nobody reads the Notes field that would be rather misleading UI…
We do read them, don’t worry. There’s a part time contractor, Tarek, who looks through all the requests and does our mostly automated process of uploading. By year’s end I hope to have this ironed out so it’s completely automated
Yeah, this comment along with the others make sense. Natively isn’t really a great book discovery platform yet for people with a lot of books and aren’t hamstrung by text difficulty. Maybe someday we’ll get there… but it will be challenging as our user base will always be a bit smaller and our database most likely will be too.
Right now the discovery is really only good who’s primary issue is with text difficulty and aren’t reading a ton of books yet. At least, I think that’s the case.
We could become a good discovery platform for big readers too, but we’ll have to leverage our potential future advantages:
- book source agnostic
- better tagging
- better potential recommender algorithm / recommendation interface
It’s possible as a lot of these giants are pretty antiquated, but we’ll see!
It would be useful for when the time comes to drop Amazon.
As long as I can keep buying without extreme workarounds and I can load the books on my read application of choice, I’ll probably keep with AmazonJP. But there might be a time where it comes useful as I have to browse somewhere else.
I think really having tags well in place before diving into discovery will help a lot.