Product Updates & Casual Natively Discussion

@polv @nativelearner roger on all of this!

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By the way, there should be a link to My Lists somewhere from the drop down top menu (either under the far-right profile dropdown or Lists) because I always have to go through my profile to find my lists when I want to mess with them.

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About the forum, but Book Clubs (category) is Japanese only, while bookclub (tag) can be any language or multi-language…

Actually, there are Book Clubs sub-categories in other languages too, but the language names aren’t visible, as well as #reading:book-clubs only links to Japanese.

All Languages doesn’t have any sub-categories, only tags.

I think by default the other languages that you’re not listed as studying are muted in Discourse. I unmuted them because I’m nosy, but I think for most people the default muting is desirable behavior.

Or do you mean you’ve unmuted them and it still doesn’t work?

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I’ve never muted anything.

Clicking “Book Clubs” goes to Japanese >> Reading >> Book Clubs, and it doesn’t show Kiki which is listed as All Languages with bookclub tag.

No way can I know “Book Clubs” means Japanese, other than the color code.

Clicking “bookclub” goes to bookclub tag, which includes All Languages.




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btw, clicking any of the Book Clubs here only goes to Japanese >> Reading >> Book Clubs. (i.e. Book Clubs)

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Korean Book Clubs, for example, (supposedly) has different a color code.
But, no books are given colored sub-category.

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Hmm, what could be a good solution to this? Adding language tags? Changing the bookclub tag to Japanese bookclub, Korean bookclub, All languages bookclub etc? Better color coding? Adding flags to the thread title?

I propose language tags, and reading tag, watching tag. Then remove language categories and subcategories, convert to tags.

Non-JP Book Clubs categories (2nd level) not working is a Discourse bug, but 1st level language subcategories are just bad UX.

Hello! Forgive me if this isn’t the right thread for this post.

I find myself often interested in checking who has finished a book and so I click on the link to the activity section.

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There are often a lot of “wants to read” and “started to read” status updates which I don’t care about and it’s inconvenient to wade through. And so I wonder, is there a way to filter the status updates so it shows just those who have finished reading?

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I’m trying to remember if there’s a product request for this; it’s an issue that’s been brought up before for sure. I’m a proponent as well.

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I also recall this being discussed but I couldn’t find a product request. I’m also in favor. I remember this discussion because we also discussed users who have their list set to private, and I think I mentioned some simple way to still include that information without revealing who it was.

At least the thing I remember wasn’t so much filtering activity as it was a whole new display showing current status for users. Or something like that.

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This thread?

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@brandon Why is it possible to rate books that you have in your Owned list? Shouldn’t it only be possible to rate books in Finished, Stopped, and (maybe) Reading?

I noticed this when looking at 現実もたまには嘘をつく | L22 because I saw that one other person rated the book but the page said “1 finished” (which is me). I scrolled to the activity section expecting the other person to be Stopped, but they actually have it in Owned.

(I don’t know if this is common practice due to reading a book translated or something, but at least this user has rated several books in their Owned list)

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I’m not particularly concerned if users elect to do this because, as you mention, there’s at least a reasonable use case wrt having read the translated version.

I haven’t really seen people leaving reviews w/o having read it, which I’d think would be slightly more concerning… but really i’m not too miffed about it. In general there’s just a lack of reviews.

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I don’t think you should rate something on a language learning site if you haven’t read it in the target language. Normally a rating is just about enjoyment, but here it should take into account (even if subconsciously) the language. For all we know, they didn’t like the book because of a bad English translation.

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I find not being able to do this a bit awkward occasionally, because I would prefer my books-read count not to include textbooks, but Natively wants me to mark textbooks as read or it gets very confused about me reviewing them. For instance Essential Japanese: An Introduction to the Standard Colloquial Language | L5 I have reviewed, but the review shows up for me only in my list of reviews, not when I look at the book page itself. (IIRC it does show up for other users, which is a bit odd.)

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Can confirm, your review shows up when I look at the book page)

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Edit book information?
Hi, new user here - enjoying the site a great deal. I have a very minor problem:
An Author’s name is not consistent across different titles (one title has a space between their names wheras the usual format is no space). I can still search for them and use other functions, but my statistics come out a bit wonky:

Is there a way to edit book information?

Thanks

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Hi, welcome! So there’s no way for a user to manually change book information; you can click the Submit Feedback button on a book or series page to request changes one-by-one, but it can add up to a lot if you have a lot of change requests over many pages.

That space/no space thing has been a bit of an issue for a while, unfortunately. I know that @brandon, the site owner, prefers having the space in, so there’s been a move towards having the space in Japanese author names, but as you’ve seen it’s not entirely consistent. I don’t suppose you have any plans in the pipeline for that, @brandon?

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Thanks! I’ll request spaces be added rather than removed then. I don’t want to make work for the admins, but I do like my stats :nerd_face:

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It’s related to this product request. You can add that it also affects stats there and even cast your vote if you’d like

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