Week 4 ๐Ÿฐ ไปŠๆ—ฅใ‹ใ‚‰ใƒž็Ž‹! ๐Ÿ‘‘ | BL Book Club ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ‘จ

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Weโ€™re already on week 4 - apologies for this thread being up a little late! :sweat_smile:

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Week Start Date Chapter End page (original) End page (combined- digital) No. of pages End page (combined - physical) No. of pages Notes
4 Jan 1 3 75 73 16 80 18 line ending: โ€ฆไบบ็”Ÿ็ตŒ้จ“่ฑŠๅฏŒใชใฎ!?

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A bunch of references again this week. Iโ€™ll write more when I have access to a computer.

Anyway, that was a dramatic entrance :rofl:

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I have to admit Iโ€™ll be looking forward to that, haha. I looked up a bit here and there but Iโ€™m usually too lazy to go after them all.

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So, flipping through that part,

  • ใƒใ‚ฆใ‚นใƒ†ใƒณใƒœใ‚น (Dutch: Huis Ten Bosch) is a theme park in Nagasaki prefecture that, according to Wikipedia:

recreates the Netherlands by displaying life-sized copies of old Dutch buildings.

E.g., the main character is faced with a full-sized medieval castle town.

  • 9ๅ›ž่ฃ is a baseball term. I donโ€™t think it really counts as a reference, but just in case, itโ€™s the last round? play? in a game of baseball (as one can tell, I do not know my baseball terminology in English).

  • ไธ–็•Œ้บ็”ฃ song: The Song of Life by Yuji Toriyama. Youโ€™ve heard it (I assume, as well).

  • ่ก€็›Ÿ(ๅ›ฃ)/ใ€Œไธ€ไบบไธ€ๆฎบใ€ is a reference to the ่ก€็›Ÿๅ›ฃ (apparently called the โ€œLeague of bloodโ€ in English).

  • ใƒฉใƒ™ใƒซ (usually ใƒฉใƒดใ‚งใƒซ) is Joseph Maurice Ravel. I know at least Bolรฉro by him. ใ‚จใƒซใ‚ฌใƒผ is Sir Edward William Elgar. They are both music composers. I guess YouTube is your friend to get a feel for the kind of music ใƒฆใƒผใƒช is hearing :stuck_out_tongue:

  • I assume I donโ€™t have to introduce ใ‚นใƒ”ใƒซใƒใƒผใ‚ฐโ€ฆ

  • ใ€Œใ‚ดใƒƒใƒ‰ใƒปใƒ•ใ‚กใƒผใ‚ถใƒผใ€ ๆ„›ใฎใƒ†ใƒผใƒž (Never watched that movie, so I didnโ€™t know what it sounds like :p)

  • ใ‚ฆใ‚ฃใƒผใƒณๅฐ‘ๅนดๅˆๅ”ฑๅ›ฃ is pretty self explanatory. Thank god for saying he looks like a former member, because the members all look 12, if that.

I may have missed some, since I was going back through that part quite fast.

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Omg, all these names are making me dizzyโ€ฆ

My interest in the book is suddenly piqued with the entrance of Wolfram. I love his attitude and heโ€™s the first character to have some kind of interesting dynamic with our protagonist. I think this is gonna be a classic bickering-couple type of dynamic, plus heโ€™s in the same age range (well, apparently not) as Yuuri so they can be more familiar. Probably this is the BL element..

Iโ€™m not sure I totally understood the throne wars politics. Can someone explain this to me? So the previous king was a woman, but what happened to her? And when she declined the throne, her power-abusing brother is left in charge of the transitionโ€ฆ and I guess Conrad was supposed to be next in line. Am I understand that correctly? Itโ€™s worded like weโ€™re supposed to figure it out but I get really confused with family lineage stuff, lol. Or wait, I wonder if itโ€™s going to be revealed that the previous royal family now has to marry in to the royal family and Yuuri has to get married to Conrad or somethingโ€ฆ

Whatโ€™s with that plot twist at the end though?? Lol.

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Nothing? She is abdicating the thrown since ใƒฆใƒผใƒช is here, but thatโ€™s it. (Good job noticing she was a woman, though, I didnโ€™t catch that up until a later part)

Huh, no. He is not next in line (he is her second son, but he doesnโ€™t even have ใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒณ at the beginning of his name, so he probably isnโ€™t even technically a noble).

Plot twist??

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I guess Iโ€™m getting confused here, because

I would assume that the kingโ€™s son would be next in line to be kingโ€ฆ
because of how monarchies work in our world. I also got confused with the names, I meant to say Gwendal (?), the eldest son, not Conrad, the second eldest.

My further confusion is because Gunta refers to Wolfram as a crown prince (I looked up that word)
ใŸใจใˆ็Ž‹ๅคชๅญใ—ใฎใ‚ใชใŸใจใ„ใˆใฉใ‚‚่จฑใ›ใพใ›ใ‚“!

Soโ€ฆ a prince is someone who is going to be king right? I think that was my misunderstanding.

I am also used to kings being for life so I was confused what happened to the previous oneโ€ฆbut it looks like she just left. I think Iโ€™m taking โ€œkingโ€ too literally here, and itโ€™s more so a reference to some generic supreme ruler.

As for the plot twist, itโ€™s that Wolfram is 82 years old .

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Ah! That changes everything. Then yes, he was ็Ž‹ๅคชๅญ.

Same. My understanding is that he has a stronger claim to the throne because something that has to do with his soul. happen even in real life), although I donโ€™t know if that gives her any power.

Ah, I guess I am too used to ้ญ”ๆ— and other elves in fantasy aging way slower

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Done with week 4; Iโ€™m doing quite well this week. Given that, though, I think Iโ€™m going to switch from physical to digital. There are just enough lookups that itโ€™s really breaking my flow, so I feel like Iโ€™m having to read a lot slower that usual. (It would help if you would stop referencing random pop culture/modern things, ๆœ‰ๅˆฉ. :stuck_out_tongue:)

Wolfram is as much of a punk as I remember, haha. Iโ€™m wondering if Iโ€™ll like him more this time around; Iโ€™m not one much for tsundere characters.

I enjoyed getting a small overview of the various ้ญ”ๆ— races that lived in the kingdom, and how their coloring tied in with their tribe. Iโ€™m curious about how succession generally works for the ้ญ”็Ž‹, given the little bit I remember from the manga. Would Gwendal have succeeded his mother? Maybe reading more will clear it upโ€ฆ And did ๆœ‰ๅˆฉ mention that ใ‚ขใ‚ช is a common Japanese horse name?

A question for my fellow readers: do ็œž็Ž‹ and ไธŠ็Ž‹ mean specific things? Or are they just in-universe titles? My current understanding is that ็œž็Ž‹ refers to ๆœ‰ๅˆฉ/ๆœ‰ๅˆฉโ€™s soul specifically.

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็œž็Ž‹ is the first ever ้ญ”็Ž‹, who founded the country. He is dead, technically, but still has an impact on the decision making in the country (not clear if itโ€™s a ghost, or more like a religion thing)

ไธŠ็Ž‹ is an actual title in real life. It refers to a king (or queen in this case) that transferred the throne to their heir before their death.

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Oh, very interesting. How is that pronounced? ใ†ใˆใŠใ†๏ผŸ

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If I remember correctly from the anime: ใ˜ใ‚‡ใ†ใŠใ†

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As @Biblio said, ใ˜ใ‚‡ใ†ใŠใ†. (My source is my dictionary rather than the anime; Wikipedia also agrees)

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