🐺 Week 2 | 人狼サバイバル 1 絶体絶命! 伯爵の人狼ゲーム 🧐

Week 2 November 23
Pages 15-31
Chapter 1 (part 2)
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We’re reading this book as part of the Children’s Book Club.

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  • I’m reading along :wolf:
  • I have fallen behind and I’m planning to catch up later :paw_prints:
  • I’m reading this at my own pace :face_with_monocle:
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Ooo-oooooo! :wolf:

I will neither confirm nor deny if this implies that I’m the werewolf.

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Please add yourself to my “possibly a werewolf” list:

  • Possibly a werewolf
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Chapter thoughts

Well, that was quite an introduction. Calls himself “The Count”, refuses to elaborate. That’s not suspicious at all. :laughing:

And now we know how the book establishes urgency for the kids.

Also damn, that sheep painting.

人間の手足を持ち、洋服を着た羊たちの絵だ。

Me: “Haha. That’s slightly creepy I guess.” :laughing:

羊たちは五人おり、その中の一人がほかの四人に指さされている。

Me: “Isn’t that a little bit too on th–” :thinking:

指さされた羊のすぐそばには血にぬれたギロチン。

Me: :fearful:


Also, I wonder what’s up with the missing letters from ORIHARA. RHR is left, so starting with the first, every second letter is missing. Seems strangely regular, and an interesting detail to include at all, but I have no idea what to do with or (or with the remaining OIAA).

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thoughts

Well that escalated quickly. :joy:

I’m glad that we didn’t have to hem and haw over, is the count good actually for 2-3 chapters. Nope, the grownups are missing, you’re playing a werewolf game while I drink my tea menacingly. Let’s go.

Speaking of the grownups missing, there’s no universe that I would have gone upstairs, let alone to sleep, without seeing one of them and hearing that things had worked out. And that’s leaving aside whole haunted mansion and creepy count vibes :joy:

I didn’t notice that much detail, but I did notice that what is missing isn’t adjacent. It’s also all of the vowels :thinking:

I know we don’t have the rules yet, but, I’m guessing we can cross the count off of our werewolf list if he’s the one that’s starting the game? Like, “guess who’s the werewolf all you people who aren’t me and who already know each other, oh wow, how did you guess it was me?” :joy:

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Week 2 thoughts

Really enjoyed the second half of this chapter; adults go missing, blood everywhere, Count is appropriately menacing. This is just really fun so far!

Quick question: on page 16/6% of my Kindle copy, everyone’s just stepped into the manor and the 伯爵 is convincing then to come in, he says:

取って食べたりはしませんよ。さあ、荷物を持って、中へどうぞ。

What does 取って食べたりはしませんよ。mean? How is the 取って modifying the 食べたり?

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Page 16/6%

I think it’s “and then”, chaining the two verbs into a sequence. As in (literally) “I’m not gonna do things like [grabbing/catching/picking up] and then eating you.”

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Aaaah, makes sense. Thank you!

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Page 16 comments

I said last week that they should not knock on the door and they DIDN’T!!! They wisely tried to leave!!! But by then it was already too late … :scream:

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Page 17 question

Towards the end of the page …

一文字ずつ外せるので、おれもキャンプのあいだは自分の名前「HAYATO」と並べていた。

I just can’t grasp the meaning of this sentence whatsoever. :see_no_evil:

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Oh man, that one took me a bit to figure out even with a translator, so you’re in good company.

Page 17

I think the name tags the two adults are wearing aren’t printed or written as a whole, but they are somehow made out of single letters. I don’t know if those letters are pinned to their clothes one by one, or if they are somehow fastened to a magnetic or otherwise sticky name tag, or behind a foil or whatever, but the point is that you have letters and you can build name tags from them.

Having that context - maybe it makes sense now? If not, here is the (literal) translation:

Since (those) letters can be taken off one by one, I also lined up up my name ‘HAYATO’ (on one of those nametags) during the camp.

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pg 17

(Without any evidence) I assumed it was kinda like how marquee letters work. I’m not familiar with name tags like that, but that combined with the missing letters gave me that impression?

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Spoilers from this week, but beyond page 17:

That’s a possibility, yeah! If that’s the case, the missing letters would definitely be like that on purpose, considering that you’d have to remove pretty much all letters to remove every second one.

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response

It felt very intentional, and the narration took the time to be very specific about the name tags and the missing letters which is part of what gave me the impression I think.

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chapter thoughts

Woah, that did escalate quickly! Really fun vibes at the ending with the count saying creepy villain things and drinking tea.

Also, how about the painting?? The sheep had human arms and legs?

Ok I did laugh at the ギロチン

I totally skimmed past this when I read it, but now that you all mention it, I was confused by 並べる being used to refer to letters on a nametag, and was thinking I must be missing some meaning of the verb. I feel like sometimes with language learning when something is kind of unexpected I have a hard time believing what I’m reading, like, that can’t possibly be the right meaning.

Also would like to note that we spent a long time describing how ヤマネ is wearing a dress because her clothes got wet in the river, versus the other kids who are wearing 動きやすい clothes. Chekhov’s 動きにくい dress??

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I’m really enjoying reading prose again! This book has some great imagery too. Like 雨雲の切れ間に入ったのか、獣の瞳似た黄色い月がのぞいている。 (page 15)

chapter comments

Lots of good creepy moments, but for me by far the creepiest was on page 20.

Book:

しばらくして、伯爵だけが戻ってきた。

Me:
ひぃぃぃ!:scream:

Yeah, this was a great moment haha.

iirc, I did too. :joy:

I suspect that the count is in no danger whatsoever, he’s just the referee, really.

Indeed! What’s up with that? I want to keep this speculation going, if nothing else just because I really enjoy the phrase “Chekhov’s 動きにくい dress” :joy:

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Need to catch up! Hopefully tonight! Work has been a bit busier than I hoped this week.

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Read this week’s chapter there. Most of what I would have said has been said.

綿菓子わたがし was a new word for me and left me hearing:

Speculation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOy6hqzfsAs

Because a certain anime made very full use of the 綿わたわた pun.

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On page 20... things are getting exciting

I had to stop at p. 20 tonight, just before しばらくして、伯爵だけが戻ってきた。Things are getting interesting. :smiley:

Slightly confused about the nametags, but hopefully that will become clearer later? Surely, it must be relevant.

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Time for week 3, in which the children will surely discover that Werewolf Game is just the name of a popular board game that their two caretakers have set up in the next room over, and the bloody clothing is from a clumsy encounter with an unexpectedly sharp knife during an attempt to prepare breakfast. Definitely!

Either way, I’m sure it’ll all end well, if we just keep reading!!

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