Does anyone have any recs that predominantly feature kansai ben and below level 25 or so
雨でも晴れでも 1 | L22 - the main character has a pretty strong accent (and it’s a big part of her character)
「マンガ」 君の名は。 1 | L23 - half the story takes place in a fictional town in Gifu prefecture. It’s not overly strong imo, but definitely was a challenge the first time I read it
There is ラブ★コン | L25. Here the characters speak almost exclusively Kansai, as the manga is set in that region. But so far I only saw the anime (24 episodes).
Just in case you are not aware, there is a “Kansai Dialect” tag, so you can also go to Browse —> All Books, and then search for the tag on the left side, as well as filter by any of your other needs/interests.
This doesn’t really help with specific recommendations, but you may find a more comprehensive list. Of course, this assumes that things have been tagged correctly.
Below is a screenshot of the first results that popped up as an example:
I was not aware at all! I knew and used the tag system but never realised there was one for dialect. Thank you! and thanks everyone else for the recommendations as well.
Oh, also, I just read the first chapter of 四十九日のお終いに, which might be below level 25 if you are already familiar with Kansaiben? It was very understated and interesting.
It’s set in Kyouto. I just added the kansai ben tag. It’s not yet graded. I just started reading (though I watched the anime subtitled). I think it’s a bit difficult for me because of the dialect, but that’s obviously not something to count against it if you specifically want dialect. It has full furigana. Though as typicall it’s sometimes impossible to read in the digital version.
I’m finishing ぼっち・ざ・ろく 3 in my lesson tomorrow, and think I want to switch to something new.
Options I’m considering:
トゲナシトゲアリ lyrics: (band from ガールズバンドクライ S1 | L24). I’m obsessed with this show and band. Lyrics require creative interpretation, and it will probly expose random grammar points I’m weak on, but I could also just use the lyrics from their YouTube channel
Good vocab reinforcement and very helpful for comprehension (I’m hit or miss with this). It’s been on my reread list
Very helpful comprehension and vocab. Teacher might like it. Cons: starting in the middle of the series. I think I’d probably be alright on my own with this
It’s a yuri LN that gets me closer to my goal of reading more L30s LNs, and would probably be helpful to have someone to ask questions. Cons: might be too many vocab lookups. It’s gonna take forever, since it’s an LN
- トゲナシトゲアリ lyrics
- 赤髪の白雪姫 5
- アオのハコ 1
- 裏世界ピクニック 1
I say go for this one. In my eyes there are many positives:
- Yuri, and you’re a fan of that genre
- You already have a goal for L30+ LNs which you presumably haven’t met yet
- You’ll have someone on hand to ask questions as they come
- Sounds like there’s a lot of vocab you don’t know, and while it can be painful, if there are a ton of lookups that’s just that much more 言葉 you’re stuffing into your brain.
I have a little (2 SAO novels), and I started making progress on it today with 転生王女と天才令嬢の魔法革命 | L33 + audiobook. Anyway, this is definitely a strong consideration
Yes, however I’m not sure whether that’s an efficient/effective use of lesson time, if it ends up being a really high amount. Also 裏世界 does have an audiobook, and I wonder which is better for vocab acquisition
Anyway, I’m probably fretting unnecessarily
I read the manga, and unless there’s lots of stuff from the LN left out there, I’m not sure I would recommend this if you’re primarily into it for the yuri.
This sentence from Niffer’s review will probably hold true for at least multiple volumes (and I have no idea if it ever changes):
A lot of western fans seem to really hype-up the yuri but I felt like the romance took a back seat in this novel. Yes, there’s chemistry between the characters, but it’s a slow burn as their relationship as friends develops first with the hint there might be more.
However I’d definitely recommend this (or the manga) if you’re into the general concept of the book! I was surprised how much I liked it.
If the question is “book or audiobook for learning”, the answer is always “listening while reading”
I’m fine with that. I’m the sorta person who enjoys 声優ラジオのウラオモテ for the yuri (amongst other things). Also I like slow burns (ex アオのハコ and 赤髪の白雪姫)
The question is “reading outloud with a teacher who will correct readings, and help me understand” vs “reading with audiobook - which guarantees correct pitch accent and readings, but not comprehension”.
So the follow-up question is: is speaking or listening more effective for vocab acquisition? I suspect the answer is どっちでもいい. And I can just read future volumes with the audiobook, if I’m still into it after vol 1
Well, no, the answer from brain science, according to the book I am reading, is “which ever is most challenging for your brain without completely overwhelming you”. If voicing out sounds harder, then (according to them) it’s probably better.
Somewhat unrelated, but they also mentioned that physical dictionary lookups are way better for word retention, while offering the option to check the words around (and thus more opportunities for learning).
Extremely minor spoiler: it does change
Medium spoiler: from volume 2, so not that many volumes
Major (? With respect to relationship at least, not the plot) spoiler: they have sex in volume 8
(I can delete that last one if people think I am giving too much away )
I haven’t read volume 9 yet, so I don’t know how it goes, but anyway, I think my conclusion is that it’s fine to be in for the yuri (which I thought was interesting overall too).
I mean, you described it as “major spoiler” and put it behind spoiler tags, so I think nobody could possibly complain.
(Whatever it is. I’m certainly not looking at it.)
I guess one could say that the spoiler tag requires self-responsibility.
I’m just afraid some people may click in a compulsive way.
Anyway, I just checked and @Niffer didn’t read past volume 1, which explains that part of their review, I think.
Interesting. In this case that means that reading aloud is probly better
Re: physical dictionary - I’ve been considering getting one, but no idea what to get. Also both dictionary apps I’d use (Akebi and Takoboto) have some form of simultaneously showing adjacent/semi-related words… Not quite identical to a physical dictionary, but kinda similar
I forget what the 電子書籍 does, cuz I need to buy batteries…
No reason to delete the spoiler - that’s what the tags are for. If people click on it compulsively like I did that’s on them. (I don’t mind spoilers too much, also that seems more like an eventuality than a spoiler )
I mean, it implies things about their relationship; they could have remained in limbo forever. I’ve seen that happen before.
… All that talk is making me want to read volume 9, now. But I have no time.
With the caveat that if your teacher isn’t correcting your pronunciation/pitch accent (and that’s a thing you care about), reading aloud without a examplar at best won’t help with those skills and are worse will create a path in your brain that makes the mispronunciation the easiest path to follow when speaking in the future.
This isn’t necessarily a problem, depending on your goals, and may be a worthwhile tradeoff for the retention.
Neither is a concern for me, but yes that’s an important caveat.