Chapter 3 | 日本人の心がわかる日本語 | Weeks 5 - 7

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Content by Chapter Table
Thread Chapter Pages
:one: 日本語を学ぶ方たちへ 3 - 4
:one: 日本語を教える方たちへ 5 - 6
:one: Chapter 1 11 - 40
:two: Chapter 2 41 - 58
:o: Chapter 3 59 - 81
:four: Chapter 4 83 - 107
:five: Chapter 5 109 - 122
:six: Chapter 6 123 - 149
:seven: Chapter 7 151 - 179
Content by Week Table
Thread Week # (Start) Entries Pages
:one: 1(1月12日) Chapter 1:「内と外」、「世間」 12 - 22
:one: 2(1月19日) Chapter 1:「しつけ」、「けじめ」 23 - 32
:one: 3(1月26日) Chapter 1:「素直」、「甘える」 33 - 40
:two: 4(2月2日) Chapter 2:「人目」、「恥」 42 - 52
:two:, :o: 5(2月9日) Chapter 2:「照れる」、 Chapter 3:「遠慮」 53 - 65
:o: 6(2月16日) Chapter 3:「気をつかう」、「人並み」 66 - 74
:o:, :four: 7(2月23日) Chapter 3:「空気を読む」、コラム①、 Chapter 4:「つきあい」 75 - 87
:four: 8(3月2日) Chapter 4:「愛想」、「礼儀」 88 - 96
:four: 9(3月9日) Chapter 4:「本音と建前」、「おかげさま」、コラム➁ 97 - 107
:five: 10(3月16日) Chapter 5:「控えめ」、「ほのめかす」、コラム➂ 110 - 122
:six: 11(3月23日) Chapter 6:「がんばる」、「根性」 124 - 133
:six: 12(3月30日) Chapter 6:「無理」、「修行」 134 - 141
:six:, :seven: 13(4月6日) Chapter 6:「武士道」、コラム➃、 Chapter 7:「品」 142 - 155
:seven: 14(4月13日) Chapter 7:「やまとなでしこ」、「派手・地味」 156 - 165
:seven: 15(4月20日) Chapter 7:「恩・義理」、「いさぎよい」、「もったいない」 166 - 179
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Just realized I am actually on track. Nice.

The last sentence in 人並み was interesting as basically the author is saying that through globalisation and the internet this is slowly but surely vanishing. :thinking:

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…and it’s like the first time the author admits such a thing.

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The author seems to have fairly conservative views in general - having been born in 1944 I would be surprised if he didn’t.
Acknowledging/realizing that society is no longer what it was 40+ years ago can be difficult, imo. (I am not even that old but I still notice some changes in my country that I am not particularly fond of. :see_no_evil: )
I did not expect to even get this small acknowledgment of modern times changing society. I expected the book to just describe the “ideal” without ever dipping into the reality of changing times. :sweat_smile:

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Week 7 is on! meaning halfway we start Chapter 4!

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We finally made it to 空気を読む and I learned nothing I didn’t already know. I demand to see this book’s supervisor (⁠ノ⁠`⁠Д⁠´⁠)⁠ノ⁠彡⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

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I first heard the expression while watching the series 中二病でも恋がしたい! | L27. Lovely over the top comedy by the way.

Someone watched the two MCs‘ building and balcony from behind some hedge, another came along and asked what they are doing there, meaning why not go right away to the building and ring the bell. There came that phrase :wink:

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I think I’ve heard it first used in manga weaponized like the author mentioned in the chapter (I think that’s maybe where I also learned TPO too?). I was also aware of KYな人 for the same meaning… maybe I just already knew too much for this keyword :joy:

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When I first encountered that concept I was like: Do ppl really not understand how to read the room (or between the lines)?
But then I heard multiple US Americans living in Japan that it was one of the more difficult things to learn/get used to for them. So, apparently, it’s not a common feature but depends on the culture you grew up in. Austria seems to be similar to Japan in this regard.

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Speaking of 空気を読む. There’s a funny game series on the subject for anyone interested

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spicy take

My nonscientific observation is that it’s (usually white) American men who can’t 空気を読む. The rest of us have to do it even in America but they get a pass most of the time and don’t need to. So they also can’t do it in Japan. :upside_down_face:

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I haven’t even read these chapters yet but, ahem let me weigh in and give my anecdotal opinion too! This is mostly from the pov of communication in the workplace…

Opinions!!

Intercultural communication fun!

I’ve lived and worked in a few different countries and I feel like the U.S. is somewhere in the middle between high-context and low-context communication for sure. I have noticed that being a 空気を読める person is valued in white collar environments, but it is referred to as emotional intelligence in English instead. Both reading the air and emotional intelligence are about trying to understand your + others emotions and how certain things can impact them, really. If someone doesn’t have it, people who do just throw up their hands and try to work around them. I see those who do have high EQ having a smoother time with interpersonal relationships, but it’s not a must because others are just out there having success through brute forcing stuff (but people may not like them and stop following them as a leader or taking them seriously at some point). There may be some trends or stereotypes about who has more EQ/空気を読む skills for sure, though.

Working in German speaking environments, it’s not like EQ didn’t exist, but there was more value placed on (and maybe more respect associated with?) expressing your opinion and letting someone else know where things stand from your point of view so that mutual understanding is reached that way through some kind of negotiation or discussion. I mean, it wasn’t like that with every single person of course, but just as a general trend that I noticed.

When I’ve worked with Japanese people, I’ve been surprised as an American how far the consideration and suppositions about other people’s feelings go. It can encompass way more things than I’d normally consider like hierarchy, age, 面子 etc, which again makes sense, but aren’t always on my radar due to the values I grew up with. :smiling_face_with_tear: One example of something I found unexpected was when a Japanese colleague accidentally let another colleague slightly higher in the hierarchy, but not the boss, know about something important for the whole business before the 課長 knew. She was very worried about the 課長 finding out and even went to apologize to him. For context, the information itself wasn’t such a big deal, but rather the fact that she was worried he would feel disrespected because she talked to the other person and didn’t report to him first. When I saw that going down, I felt like I was looking behind the veil at a system that was invisible to me and suddenly felt scared about how many violations I must have been making. :joy: This was a really long time ago, though!!

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Week8 meaning we’re on chapter 4 now (since half of last week to be precise lol)

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