Week 16 | また、同じ夢を見ていた / 또다시 같은 꿈을 꾸었어 | Beginner’s LN club

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Week 16 May 12 2024
Chapter 9 (part 2 of 3)
Percent 83%
:jp: Pages 234 - 250
:jp: Final line さあ、言ってやりなさい。
:kr: Pages 222 - 238
:kr: Final line 그리고 둥근 손잡이가 천천히 돌아가는 것이 분명하게 보였습니다.
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Can anyone confirm whether the ending page for Korean is 237 or 238? The charts in the home thread have differing numbers

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Continuing to enjoy this chapter. Not much else to say just yet though

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Oh my god I missed the final line againnn! I guess it’s a good sign that I’m enjoying the reading, though!

Like you said, Jintor, I don’t think there’s much to say about the chapter yet. We’re getting very close to the ending though, so I’m guessing the next couple of weeks are going to be exciting!

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Ugggggh. Stopping at the end of the section was so hard again this week.

His mom listening to the kids’ conversation and then crying really got to me
I don’t think I’m going to the end of the book with dry eyes :sweat_smile:.

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Glad to see Nanoka is starting to understand Kiryu-kun more and more… and they made up again! Or actually, became friends? Nanoka finally made a friend in class? :smile:

人生とは、私の味方みたいなものなのです。
「光だけあれば、まあ十分」

Aww!

I have a couple of questions for this chapter

桐生くんのお母さんは変なことを言いました。「本当なら、私が言ってあげなきゃいけなかった」。

I’m just as confused as Nanoka here, but I wonder if my confusion is more due to the language barrier. What is she saying there? “If it’s the truth, I should have said it?”

私が右手に持っていたノートじゃないものを見ていると、私に追いついてきた桐生くんもそれに気がつきました。私は、彼に今の素直な気持ちを伝えます。
「これ、ちょうだい」
断られてしまうかも。いえ、いつもの桐生くんならきっと断るとすら思いました。でも、桐生くんは少し恥ずかしそうな顔をして、それから頷いてくれたのです。
私は嬉しかったのですが、どうして桐生くんがそれをくれたのか分かりませんでした。でも、いいのです。桐生くんがくれたそれを、私は自分の部屋に飾ることに決めました。

I’m a bit confused by this. Nanoka was holding a drawing of his, right? Did I miss that she picked it up somewhere, or was that omitted? (If it was omitted, I assume it was blown out of the room by the wind when Kiryu-kun opened the door.)

ひとみ先生が好きな子なら、なんでも話してしまいそうになる顔です。

I can’t quite decipher this sentence.

  • ひとみ先生が[…]顔です。- Hitomi-sensei made this face:
  • 好きな子なら、- If it’s by a child I like,
  • なんでも - no matter what (?)
  • 話してしまい - talk about (why is this しまう?)
  • そうになる - is about to happen (?)

(Btw, the Korean end line in the opening post of this thread should be: 자, 어서 모두에게 당당하게 말해줘.)

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I think your assumption is correct. Earlier, the text says:

“桐生くんの顔を見た私がそう思っていると、部屋の中で踊っていた紙が一枚、飛んできて私の顔を覆いました。 息が出来なくて、慌てて顔からひっぺがしたそれを見て、きっと私は、アバズレさんに負けないくらいの笑顔を浮かべていたことでしょう。”

This indicates that a piece of paper was blown into her face, and it seems like she ended up holding onto it, which matches the later scene where she asks Kiryu-kun if she can have it.

I hope this helps clarify the scene!

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Oh, for some reason I faintly misremembered the paper being blown into Kiryu-kun’s face, which now that I’m thinking about doesn’t make any sense in the first place.

Yeah, it’s probably that paper then, especially considering that she smiles so much after looking at it. Thanks!

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I think this is ‘hitomi sensei made a face like "if it’s a child I like, I’ll end up having listen to/talk about whatever they have to say’.

~しまう can be ‘to do completely’… Or it could be the ‘wind up having to do’ meaning?

In this case I think it might be two elements, そうに and なる

I’m not completely confident in that though lol. I might ask a native speaker friend

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I think I might have a slightly different interpretation of the sentence. Here’s how I see it:

  • ひとみ先生が好きな子なら、- “If it’s a child who likes Hitomi-sensei,”
  • なんでも話してしまいそうになる顔です。- “her face makes them feel like they are about to end up telling her anything.”
    • なんでも - “anything”
    • 話してしまい - “to end up talking” (しまう here implies doing something completely or unintentionally)
    • そうになる - “is about to happen”

So, it seems to be describing Hitomi-sensei’s face, which gives off a feeling that encourages a child who likes her to share anything with her.

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I think that makes more sense in the context of the scene, yeah

Need new thread I’m dying to talk about the end of the chapter

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ちらちら ← my eyes were not eyeing here.

The difficulty is going up and down like a rollercoaster for me. Sometimes just one page will give me a headache because I can hardly understand it, and then only a few pages later I’m breezing through everything :face_with_spiral_eyes:

I started tearing up at the anticipation of what Kiryu-kun is going to say.

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Yes, it’d have better ended at the natural break on the next page. And I doubt that I can find that much patience inside me to stop at page 260 today…

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That is a good point! I’ll adjust for future readers. Sry I didn’t make the best pic the first time around.

260 is the final page of the chapter though, so I’m not sure there’s be a better endpoint.

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That’s for sure the best endpoint. It’s not against you, I just referred to my lack of patience this near to the end of the book. Maybe I should have started two weeks later. But I didn‘t know how reading would work out.

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Not much to say but glad they ended up going to school together! Excited to finish up the chapter.

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